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September 07, 2005

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1skeptic

While importing a polish plumber is similar to importing a polish mixer tap (bear with me), the difference is that the former is more than just a unit of labour. Next year he may train additionally as a gas fitter. Then he may go to night school and become an economist. In the process, the polish plumber may meet a woman who adores his piping, and thereby add further potential units of semi-polish (and semi-british)labour to the market.

This is all fine, the problem is when these other aspects of importing units of labour are not discussed. There is need for allocating adequate provision for housing, social security, healthcare and education where these are in the majority provided or tightly regulated by the state. These are also economic considerations, not matters of taste, and it seems strange not to discuss these when talking about immigration.

Laban Tall

There may indeed be arguments against immigration - but there aren't any in that particular post of mine. I tend more towards

a) dissing many of the pro-immigration arguments, though Migrationwatch do a much better job. But refuting a pro-immigration argument isn't the same as advancing an anti-immigration argument.

b) trying to point out the actual size of the immigrant population and doing some simple maths. For example, saying 'what's the problem ? Immigrants are only 10% of the population' is true as far as it goes, but if that 10% have 30% of the children, you're leaving out a very important fact. Which economist said 'compound interest is a wonderful thing' ?

I do have, not exactly an argument against immigration, but a fear. That comes from looking at the history books and looking at other ethnically divided societies. The past is not necessarily a guide to the future, but it is foolish to ignore its evidence.

PS keep up the excellent economic stuff - it's a pleasure to read.

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Chris

I was also reading the Ottaviano and Peri paper today, but your post beat me to it. An interesting analysis, though I'm not 100% convinced by its assumptions.

curious

Well done !!!
Tell it like it is. None of that sugar-coating.

Blimpish

Laban: "dissing"?

1skeptic

For some reason I couldn't get into the links into the studies earlier, but heres my pick and mix

The first study mentions

(a) skills shortages - here an empirical method may be more useful. Tell me any skill you need, and I will find a skilled person from the yellow pages.


(b) half a million vacancies - quoted without context. Is that too many or too few vacancies given the size of the employment market, and the number of existing unemployed

The second study mentions the impact of immigration wages going up by about 3%, and house prices going up by 10%. Is this good news for all?

On particular professions, like dentists - could there be a problem to do with the number of training places available? Similarly, in plumbing, there is a long list of people waiting for an apprenticeship. By the way, I hear that doctors qualifying this year in the UK are facing unemployment.

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