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James

Forgive my absolute stupidity in this matter but how does orientation come into it? Does the woman, when she applies for a job, state, 'I'm a bi and would therefore like to recieve 11% less'?

Shuggy

Surely the child-bearing thing is the most likely explanation? Lesbians can have children but are less likely to do so for obvious reasons and are therefore less likely to take career breaks. The confidence thing might be working at various levels but the key factor is if a lesbian is out to her prospective employer, they will rightly assume a career break to have children, while not impossible, is fairly unlikely.

Tim Worstall

That piece in Centrepiece wasn’t as bad as I thought it was going to be. Their conclusion is that about 50% of the gender gap is down to career breaks. They note that there is still a 12% difference between women who have never had such and male pay: part of whic, I would assume, is from employer’s worrying that they might, thus investing less in their training.
I wonder if that 11% more that lesbians get closes the gap with men? Or is it roughly the same as the 20% to 12% gap in the piece I was talking about?

my

I have heard before, that lesbians more often choose "men's proffessions", such as technicians, IT, etc, and gay men more often "women's proffesions", such as care and services. Maybe this could contribute to the fact that lesbians earn more than heterosexual women (and gay men less than heterosexual men)?

Rob Hayward

"Tim complains about yet more research on the gender pay gap. But here's a queer thing"

Very funny :-)

James Higham

...part of which, I would assume, is from employer’s worrying that they might, thus investing less in their training...

I think this hits the nail on the head - it always worried me in employing new staff.

Chris, when are you going to produce the next piece - I wait and wait and wait?

Matthew

If lesbians are 12% more likely to be in work, and on average get paid 11% more, doesn't that mean (roughly) that the ones in work get paid the same amount?

John Thacker

If lesbians are 12% more likely to be in work, and on average get paid 11% more, doesn't that mean (roughly) that the ones in work get paid the same amount?

No, as it says that they controlled for employment status and occupation in producing the 11% figure. (That vitiates another one of the comments on the page too, about career choice.)

There are also career choices outside of career breaks. Plenty of people choose not to kill themselves working very hard in order to make management track. And even outside of breaks, someone might decide to be more of the primary caregiver to children or just prefer being the spouse who works less in order to take care of stuff around the home.

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