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January 07, 2009

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kinglear

Yes quite so, and now we have the recession trick of demonstrators, which get £XXXX knocked off - except that it isn't REALLY off, its a notional figure, and they make their money on the finance anyway.

marksany

Chris, are those new prices list prices or what was actually paid?

Reducing prices in the second hand market shows that the replacement of cars is reducing, because modern cars are so much more durable than they used to be. This must hit new car sales in price and volume too.

chris

They'd be list prices - statisticians don't haggle.
But is it really the case that informal discounts are bigger now than in previous years? Most businesses try to attract custom by cutting list prices. Why do car dealers do the opposite?

Matthew

"because modern cars are so much more durable than they used to be"

Wouldn't that mean used car prices would rise?

It's not an untrue point though that cars are lasting longer. Also the market is pretty saturated, so there's little non-replacement buying these days except for first-time buyers. I think US car sales on a per capita base are at 60 year lows.

Matthew

"because modern cars are so much more durable than they used to be"

Wouldn't that mean used car prices would rise?

It's not an untrue point though that cars are lasting longer. Also the market is pretty saturated, so there's little non-replacement buying these days except for first-time buyers. I think US car sales on a per capita base are at 60 year lows.

Robbie

The graph shows a steeper than trend drop the ratio of second hand prices to new prices over the past few months. It's not implausible to explain this using the recession, second hand car market being flooded with bankers Beamers and Mercs? Well maybe not but i'd guess that at the margain there will people selling their vehicles to make ends meet.

Of course this is doesn't explain the general trend...

Meh

Car dealers keep list prices high because not everyone is prepared to haggle.

Anecdotally, haggle discounts are much larger than last year. They might soon even be enough for me to consider buying...

jameshigham

That last sentence is the bottom line.

Diogenes

"Most businesses try to attract custom by cutting list prices. Why do car dealers do the opposite?"

Is this how DFS operates? Every week you see a TV advert for some sale where DFS is knocking off thousands of pounds from its list prices.

Also, look at kitchen businesses like Magnet - you can sometimes get a bigger discount by purchasing a kitchen towards the end of an accounting period than when they are advertising a special sale, if the store manager has not achieved that period's target.

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People shouldn't "give up hope" when things are down. There is always something that can be done to improve one's lot.

Josh

Thank you for your nice blog.

Bvo

Although not all business are truly using the recession as an excuse; it's obvious as the example you mentioned above there are some companies who are using the recession as an excuse. But i think the recession can actually give you an excellent opportunity, as a business leader, to make your business successful - to prove your business leadership skills, to prove your business management skills and to prove that you are a great business leader.

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