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September 14, 2009

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jameshigham

It was share ownership of banks that got us into this mess.

Correction, Chris and that is an oversimplification you're well aware of. The problem came out of the way the CBs and the major players who control them played the game and decided that the time was ripe for the next killing to be made.

john b

"Privatization only makes sense in terms of the public finances if you make a fetish of government borrowing, and ignore the asset side of the balance sheet."

...which, regrettably, politicians, the press and even the bloody ratings agencies appear to be doing based on their daft commentaries on UK debt.

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"What Osborne is contemplating here is simply the expropriation of state assets for the gain of his favoured client base."

Sid is Osborne's favorite client base?

Diversity

5. Most 'Sids' sold, but the market will remember the people who were handed shares as a result of the privatisations of the Building Societies. Many of them did not sell in time. Northern Rock was only an extreme example. With these recent experiences of small investors being very unhappy after taking bank shares, this proposallooks to be another of George Osborne's bright ideas that are market and politically silly; as well as costly for the taxpayer.

@ james higham

Wasn't a good part of any killing at the eventual expense of the shareholders?

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Sid was intended to be Mrs. Thatcher's favoured client base. In the privatisations as executed, the bulk of the financial favours were concentrated in the City of London. Presumably Osborne has learnt from experience, and understands where the money would go.

Guano

I'm intrigued by the form of words "give voters as shareholders a say over the way that banks are run". Voters and shareholders are, in my eyes, two different groups. Voters have less influence if the shars are sold to another group, shareholders.

jturner

I am probably not experienced enough to properly analyze the positives and negatives of the bank privatization. But I will say that I would like to have seen the shareholders of the insolvent banks wiped out, and the creditors having to take haircuts based on the current market values of the toxic assets on their balance sheets (ideally it should have been based on market values back in late 08 before any taxpayer money was used to bail them out).

But given that central banks and govt's all over the world have decided to create the largest easy monetary policy of all time, it has become a race to devalue currencies. Fortunately, for investors who disagree with the govts' plans, they can invest in those areas that should continue to benefit from all the money printing. One asset class that I personally like is gold. The other day I read some insightful articles at http://www.goldalert.com/gold_chart.php that discuss the Fed's efforts to fight deflation and the potential impact on the global economy, fiat currencies, and the gold price in general. There are many important consequences of such a dramatic shift in policy that are very important for investors of all types to remain cognizant of.

rolex day date

And a lot of it reflects a switch from bank deposits to securities; foreigners “other investments” in the UK, http://www.watchgy.com/ mostly bank deposits, fell by £143.2bn in Q1. And of course there’s no guarantee such buying will continue.
http://www.watchgy.com/tag-heuer-c-24.html
http://www.watchgy.com/rolex-submariner-c-8.html

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