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Alexandre Delaigue

In the libyan case, it's not a forecasting problem. It's about defining the political goals of action. "war is uncertain" is a cliché. What is necessary is to know what will you make consider that the goals of war have been achieved - which means, defining the goals of war.
France and UK haven't done that. the UN resolution states that war is necessary to stop violence against civilians : but the only way to make it stop is to see Gadhafi leave. Which is not a stated goal.

Shuggy

"they are simply meeting a demand."

This apologia for pontificating economists doesn't quite work for me. Yes people ask them what they think is going to happen - but they wouldn't answer if they didn't think they knew, would they?

rjw

yes, but ... some things in the future ARE more likely than others, and we can be more certain about some things than others. I'm pretty certain that 'TEAM A won't win the premier league this year' is a very plausible claim, for some team A. Which leaves a whole host of questions too hard for me to think about right now.

Alex

"And herein lies the reason why it's so convenient to mock economists for their forecasting failures. Doing this distracts us from the fact that human affairs are unforecastable"

Um, surely if "human affairs are unforecastable", then those economists making forecasts SHOULD be mocked?

Glenn

Hey the future's uncertain but it must be planned for. Therefore we all need to take a view of the future as best we can. This is where forecasts come in.

When we take a loan or mortgage out, we're making a forecast of our future income and ability to pay the mortgage, aren't we? when we take out insurance we're thinking there's a tiny chance we might drop dead or die of some horrible disease.

Everybody forecasts. The big deal if some unforeseen calamitous or fortuitous event happens.

Economists forecasts should be take for what they are - which is a guestimate based on past trends. They are only as good as the data available, and they cannot predict shocks or big events which are game-changing.

For most studies of economic forecasting - 50% of the errors occur due to bad quality data about the past (Sveriges Reichsbank).

So if you moan about economists not knowing about the future - well, they only half know about the present, and some of that will be inaccurate due to bad quality data!

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