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December 01, 2011

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Metatone

Surely there's a lag time.

1) 2007 is a critical date because even though the stats may say stagnation started earlier, up until then the optimism was clearly still around.

2) 5 years is a long lag time, but that's a good sign, we're doing much better than the 1930s on the welfare state side of things. It's when the Tories get serious about chucking people off benefits and we get larger groupings of people with nothing to lose that the discontents starts to breed into politicised and/or criminal disturbance.

3) No-one seems to be sure what the August riots meant, but I think it's worth saying they cast at least a little doubt over the "happiness measurements." Probably sampling bias as much as anything.

Metatone

Good point in the Polly Curtis Guardian blog on a similar theme: the pain will hit more people when mortgage rates go up.

Estimates are that a lot of the tracker deals expire over the next couple of years. Many of the high street lenders will be looking to put these people onto their current rate (4-6%) which will come as quite a shock...

haslitt

Yes, surely a latency effect. Plenty of goodwill around following a decade of social investment, it takes time for the effects you're talking about to change people. Eventually though... War, I expect.

David Gillon

Actually disability hate crime figures are showing clear increases in Scope's regular survey, and incidents frequently include references to disabled people as benefit frauds, the scrounger rhetoric of the media hitting home.

Disabled people now perceive ourselves to have lost all the acceptance as equals we'd gained over the past 30 years, and for many of us our acceptance has never been worse. Many disabled people are quite literally scared to go out on the street.

ortega

They say someone said: we know what you are, now we are talking about the price. In that case, 7% down and tolerance, fairness and democracy seem to be at risk. Looks like a very cheap people to me.

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