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pablopatito

Political parties may not be much different in aggregate, but at the margins their differences can be massive. As a middle-class person on a modest income, the government is unlikely to make any real difference to me, this is true. But at the margins, if I was very poor, or disabled, or an immigrant, or a multi-millionaire - policies can make a big difference. And since I try and vote altruistically according to who will help the poor and the downtrodden, I feel politics does matter: not for the majority as you point out, but for the minority who matter.


Boursin

The median voter theorem is a bit problematic, because where the median is seen to be located is itself subject to all the biases known to social psychology. For instance, tiny changes in the exact wording of polling questions can effect "changes" of tens of percentage points on issues such as economic policy. The real power, in a sense, is with those who get to decide the wording.

As a non-native speaker of English, by the way, it amuses me no end to see all those "rows", and all that "fury" and "anger", in contemporary public discourse in Britain. The old stereotype, of course, was that the British are masters of self-control, understatement, and general upper-lip-stiffening. But recently they've been using their language to make themselves sound increasingly like stereotypical gesticulating Latins.

nm

"Most people who become interested in politics do so because they think policies matter. As a result, discussion of politics is disproportionately dominated by people who are prone to exaggerate the impact of policy."

Exactly right Chris. I have this sort of discussion all the time with Scottish Nationalists, who seem to view every ill, major or utterly trivial, in Scotland as a consequence of Westminster or Labour policy decisions. When some tries to tell you that the amount people drink in Glasgow is due to decades of having Labour council control, you know you are dealing with an odd mindset.

Paul J

"the parties have rarely been closer on economics"

This is plain wrong. It's very clear the tories want to push a laissez faire agenda as hard as they can, whereas labour is pulling back leftwards.

There's more difference now than at any time since the mid nineties.

rogerh

I agree with the last sentence - not much they can do - the real economy will trundle on regardless. But a couple of questions come to mind, does our form of bipartisan government cost more than it generates? and what is it that actually drives our economy?

A typical 10 year parliament seems to follow the pattern - blame the last lot, undo their policies, institute your own policies (that fail) and then when it looks like you will lose the next election you poison the well for the next lot. Repeat ad nauseam whilst using a great many people. Now I don't see BMW or Shell (say) running their business like that, pretty sure they would go bust if they did.

So what really drives the British economy? Cutting each other's hair makes the money whizz round and round and finance and industry seem to scrape together enough to pay for imports. Seems to work but how/why - does anybody know?

Alex Bollinger

Policy's important for a lot of reasons. If anything, people underestimate the importance of policy, and that's why they think the parties are really different.

Consider political journalists, who don't give a fig about policy but are the most hyperactive about the parties clashing. It's only when people care about policy that they can see that the parties are similar.

Mainstream political parties in Europe and European offshoots are indeed similar on economic policy, but they're different in other areas. Hollande continued austerity but he did legalize same-sex marriage, which Sarkozy opposed.

Moreover, the linked paper doesn't show that policy isn't important in economics. Consider:

1. There are plenty of capitalist countries with drastically different growth trends than the UK or the US (India, Argentina, Indonesia, for example) that weren't included in the study.

2. Long-run growth isn't the only important variable. I would argue that people are *more* concerned about other variables like unemployment, income inequality, quality of life indicators, short-run BC fluctuations, inflation. Heck, I haven't even met a person without a background in econ who's aware that average income in any wealthy nation was bigger in 2010 than in 1970. People just plain don't care about long-run growth (which is not the same as it not being important).

3. 6 decades without a statistically significant difference in 17 countries is simply not the same as certainty that there is no difference in all decades in all capitalist countries.

The people who claim that mainstream political parties are vastly different on all policy issues - a stronger claim that I don't agree with - tend to be political journalists and professional/rabid partisans. That is, people who don't care about policy outcomes at all because their involvement in politics is not at all motivated by a desire to promote democracy.

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エアジョーダン

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ナイキ ジョーダン

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ナイキ ジョーダン http://www.merseysidecollectorscentre.co.uk/inc/35-Nike-Air-Force.html/

エアジョーダン 通販

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ロエベ アウトレット

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ビジネスバッグ

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