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July 07, 2015

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Luis Enrique

on your point 1 https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/sdn/2014/sdn1402.pdf

BCFG

I think we should, as leftists, fight for a society where these trade offs are not required because the gap between the richest and poorest is:

A) negligible
B) based on different criteria

Steven Clarke

This is probably a good summary of the trade-offs that need to be considered.

Unfortunately, for this sort of discussion to take place requires political debate in this country to resemble some sort of Socratic dialogue, or a the thoughts of a Platonic philosopher king. That is, a deliberation of how best to rule, weighing this consideration against that, judging between conflicting values and types of rationality.

I'm sure at the best of times some deliberation along these lines does take place, within Government, and between the parties; but it's too rare and not made explicit. Decisions are also heavily affected by playing to the media and poorly-informed voters, tactical political advantage etc.

In short, we won't get better policy on this or that issue unless we improve systemically policy-debating-and-making.

Bob

Here is some evidence that what you are saying is bullshit:
http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=22711
The quit rate does not rise. So, there are no tradeoffs.

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