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June 16, 2005

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Katie

France already does this. Can't tell gay men from straight ones in France though. All dress well and smell nice.

Monjo

Is it true that French men don't have balls, though? Gay men will soon be adopting or getting lesbians pregnant.

Dander

If your arguments have force, would they not also tell against maternity leave, which is far more expensive, after all?

I agree with your point that people who are going to be good/bad parents will not be changed by a month or two here or there. Unfit dads will spend their paternity leave down the bookies. Dedicated dads will use their free time wisely to maximise their family's welfare.

Might we be better off deciding on a rate of time off per child and letting mother/father sort out how to divide it up among themselves?

Dander

If your arguments have force, would they not also tell against maternity leave, which is far more expensive, after all?

I agree with your point that people who are going to be good/bad parents will not be changed by a month or two here or there. Unfit dads will spend their paternity leave down the bookies. Dedicated dads will use their free time wisely to maximise their family's welfare.

Might we be better off deciding on a rate of time off per child and letting mother/father sort out how to divide it up among themselves?

Katie

Hey, there's a thought, Monjo's right, how do they define "paternity"? What about adoption and surrogacy? If you donate to a sperm bank and someone takes your "deposit", are you allowed paternity leave?

Monjo

Let's not forget women donating eggs (or is it technically ovum?).

Dander: as for maternity leave I can't second-guess Chris's stance. However, we have to realise women 'choose' to have a child, so it seems morally wrong to me that they should then expect other workers to work harder so they can take 3,6,9,12 months off, and unfair on the employer to pay someone who has 0 Productivity.
What seems weird to me is the US whatsits say women should breastfeed for 6mths before weaning (which is another 6 mths) yet American women only get about an afternoon off work for maternity.
So that's my opinion.

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