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September 04, 2005

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John East

"If effective tax rates of 80-90% or more on lower earners are no big obvious disincentive, what exactly is the argument against a tax rate of, say, 50 or 60% upon higher earners?"
Disincentivising or not, one thing that is wrong with a 50/60% tax on the rich is that the money would go to the state to be wasted on bureaucracy and malinvestment. If left in the hands of the rich it would either be invested where they see the best opportunity for profit, i.e. invested efficiently, or they would spend it, thus stimulating economic activity.
This of course is also a powerful argument against the 80/90% effective tax rates on the poor.
Us and them today is not the rich against the poor, it's the population against the state.

James G.

Speaking from my own experience in Germany.

Almost all of the guys who worked for me on my team were paid at around the point where any extra money would be taxed at the more progressive upper rate. All of them could get paid overtime (time and a half evenings and Saturdays, double-time Sundays and holidays) and it was readily available. Almost all of them said they could have used a little bit of extra money. But they almost never took overtime.

It was when they worked overtime that they became aware of just how much the state was taking out of their pay packs and they could see the marked difference. If you worked every single weekend for a month, you're left feeling tired and just marginally better off than had you not worked the weekends at all, as you would end up bringing home less money, for the amount of work you did, than your normal paychecks afford you.

Completely disincentivises people from wanting to work more if they'd like to make more money.

After having seen how taxes disincentivise workers, I can imagine how they would disincentivise job creators like capitalists who pay even more of a premium for creating wealth.

Andrew Duffin

What James G said.

I too was once a supervisor of quite well-paid manual workers who worked continuous shifts.

With a few exceptions it was quite difficult to get them to work even lucrative double-time shifts as overtime. "I'm not staiying here all night for the tax-man" was a common refrain.

Incentives do matter.

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