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October 10, 2005

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Tim Worstall

A reasonable question would be, just why did Beveridge fail?

Blimpish

To be fair, the 'Beveridge' welfare state wasn't quite Beveridge's. (I'm not saying his would work, and certainly not today - but that he shouldn't be held wholly responsible.)

dsquared

I am not entirely sure that the thesis that Beveridge's welfare state "failed" is the sort of thing that can be blandly asserted as an uncontroversial statement of fact!!!

dearieme

Don't be so meally-mouthed, chaps. Beveridge's Welfare State failed because it wasn't implemented by the predominantly Conservative government that commissioned it, but by a bunch of bloody Socialists.

Backword Dave

DM, there are no socialists in government now. Are you saying that it will work this time?

I agree with Dan, but of course "failed" can mean whatever you want it to mean. I think Chris's point (and he didn't say "failed") was that a) Blunkett seems to be re-proposing Beveridge; b) he must therefore think this is politically expedient; c) that in turn would imply that, because a welfare state would be a Good Thing, that we don't already have one; d) therefore the original Beveridge somehow is not being implemented at present.

The problems with this are: David Blunkett's political instincts are those a bloodhound has for post-stucturalism; he also thought we needed an open-access distance learning university, and failed to realise that the OU was quite well-known, and indeed, successful. Politicians will say anything. If warming up a decade old student paper on Iraq will justify an invasion, it'll do. If pinching some old guy's report which everyone else has forgotten, where's the harm?

Rob Read

"I am not entirely sure that the thesis that Beveridge's welfare state "failed" is the sort of thing that can be blandly asserted as an uncontroversial statement of fact!!!"

Explain the phenomenon known as the Chav.

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