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January 24, 2006

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dsquared

hum a few comments here:

1. What the eff is the CEPR doing having opinions about US counties? Are there really no more problems to be solved in the UK, where the taxpayers pay the bills?

2. The "endogeneity" issue here of people buying guns because they fear crime, and then commit crimes with them, might also be described as an "arms race". It is by no means obvious to me that it is the sort of thing that ought to be corrected for, assuming that one is looking for the answer to the question "do guns cause crime" rather than the correct estimate of the coefficient on guns in a crime equation.

3. It is usually considered better science to base the "policy implications" on the results, not on some hypothetical interpretation of the results. If Kleck et al want to support the conclusion that law enforcement ought to concentrate on criminal-held guns, then this research doesn't disaggregate and so it can't support that.

4. Of course this is also another bullet fired in Kleck's years-old feud with Lott, isn't it?

Max

Those area of the U.S. with high gun crime rates share two attributes: 1) Strict gun control laws. 2) They are cities run for years by Democrats.

Strike those areas from the U.S. numbers and gun crimes are comparable to Germany.

dsquared

Strike the balls from my Uncle Leslie and he'd be my Aunt Leslie.

dsquared

(also, are you removing German cities from the German statistics?)

CB

What do they use to account for the difference in homicide rates then? The U.S is approx 6-7 per 100,000, UK approx 1.5 per 100,000. the UK's is rising and the US is falling but surely there must be something to fill the gap between the numbers.

CB

What do they use to account for the difference in homicide rates then? The U.S is approx 6-7 per 100,000, UK approx 1.5 per 100,000. the UK's is rising and the US is falling but surely there must be something to fill the gap between the numbers.

dsquared

CB: this is exclusively a study on US counties and you really can't extrapolate from such a study to the UK which is a quite different society in terms of urbanisation, inequality, demographics and legal system. In general, I am of the unfashionable opinion that it is not possible to draw any conclusions at all about criminology from international comparisons.

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