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April 02, 2006

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dearieme

A cautious writer might first have checked whether this flourishing might not have taken place at times, and in places, where the repressive power of Islam was light. Just a guess.

chris

It was light,which is my point. The simple dichotomy that Islam=repression=backwardness vs West=liberty=rationalism=progress is just that - simple.

embutler

the people in the european enlightment did well in the relaxation of the curch's fatal grip... since muslims were stifled ,the islamic grip must have tightened

Mark

Mohammed set out to convert Arabs to an extension of Judeo Christian religion. He sort of succeeded but, the pagan Arabs have won out in the end. Like a hagfish, they have eaten away at the core of Islam until Islam no longer exists. Arab idolatry is back. This time the Koran is the idol.

Robert Schwartz

The great questions in the history of science are china and the Islamic world. In the Song dynasty, China was the leading scientific and industrial nation of the world. After the Mongol invasion, they never recovered that position.

The Muslim world was very productive in scientific fields until the 15th century. After that a very deep romantic conservatism seemed to take over. The turks adopted western cannons in the 15th century to conquer Constantinople, but in the 16th when the turks conquered Egypt, its mameluk army would not use explosive weapons and was easily vanquished. The turks, OTOH, would not allow printing presses in their empire until the 18th century, and then only for the use of Jews and Christians.

If I had to hazard a thesis on why Europe got ahead in the 15th century and stayed that way, I would suggest political chaos. Heretics like Descartes could move to another country. China and the Muslim world became more imperial and more bureaucratized.

dearieme

Within Science, complaints begin to be heard that such-and-such isn't mainstream while so-and-so is outside the consensus. Or even that some interpretations of data are insensitive or cause offence.

Paul

a link about a related topic;
http://truckandbarter.com/mt/archives/2004/08/quotes_for_refl.html

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