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July 19, 2006

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Umbongo

"What we need is a little less pseudo-Marxism and a bit more real Marxism" . . er . . like, for instance, the labour theory of value? Very profound and, of course, correct - well according to this analysis http://www.marxist.com/Economy/theory_of_value_1.html
I just hope you were joking.

dearieme

It wasn't all that long ago that respectable people, middle class and working class, shunned debt and pointed to the rough working class and their propensity for debt - the drink and the gee-gees, you know. When did it all change?

chris

Umbongo - of course the labour theory of value is gibberish. But, as John Roemer has shown, it's not an essential feature of Marxist economics.
Why does a belief in the LTV discredit Marx but not Adam Smith?

Umbongo

Agreed they were both wrong on the LTV. Unfortunately my ignorance encompasses Roemer's analysis so I'll provisionally take your word on that. However, although criticsm and/or support for any theory, if the argument is well founded, demands respect forgive me if I suspect that, given Roemer's political beliefs, his analysis might be a trifle self-serving.

dsquared

The labour theory of value is not gibberish; decidedly less so than the aggregate production function, which is regularly used on this blog.

chris

Do I really regularly use an aggregate production function? If so, it's a concession to neoclassical economics for rhetorical purposes only - you're entirely right that it's gibberish. (I'm pretty sure that pointing it out in job interviews has cost me a job or two.)

bird dog

What is all of this gibberish?

Hilary Wade

But all this is surely just an argument for the re-introduction of grammar schools? My mother came from what you'd call a working-class background (her mother was a cab driver) but got into Harrogate Grammar thanks to inherent brightness, and was thenceforth surrounded by what you've called a "heuristic" of middle-class people; hard-working, book-buying, aspirational. She's one of the best-read people I know.

Of course by the time my generation went to school, all that had gone by the board in the name of social engineering. So, if you've come away from it all with a lingering self-image as "scum", I'd say, blame Shirley Williams.

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