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September 06, 2006

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Backword Dave

Am I misreading you? "it could be, of course, that this is what their readers want. [of the dead tree press]" "we pay our licence fee for it to be independent of market forces, don't we?" Well, we do, but we also pay it to deliver what viewers want: hence Chris Moyles, EastEnders, etc. Are market forces the only way to deliver what the audience want?

I also disagree with point 1. If you have an edge in fact-gathering, you're a long way ahead in analysis, IMO.

But I'm fully behind you on 2. If I have anything against the MSM, cost-cutting is the root of my animus. Much less research; much more blather.

You're dear wrong (IMO) on point 5: there aren't enough scoops, and there is too much analysis. A good journo now is a commentator, not someone who breaks good stories.

I'd still like to see you in daily paper, mind.

james higham

I also disagree with point 1. If you have an edge in fact-gathering, you're a long way ahead in analysis, IMO.

This is true. But also true are Chris' points 3 and 5. Wht is 1] fact finding anyway and 2] what is serious analysis?

To me, 1] is debatable as almost everything is derivative in journalism. Al Jazeera gets it from AP, who syndicated it from Reuters, who had an arrangement with the local press.

And is a scoop the only important thing? People bend facts to achieve that. How about interesting topics written with authority?

dearieme

Congratulations on writing a sentence including "Blair", "thinking" and "serious policy". Very satirical.

chris

Dave, James - I agree that fact gathering puts you at a big advantage in analysis. But the MSM's fact-gathering expertise is limited. It's good at gathering anecdotes and (sometimes) talking to experts. But many journos' ability to gather hard statistics and interpret them is very limited.
How many of them, for example, are comfortable going through the US flow of funds data, or national accounts, or academic papers?

Paulie

I don't agree with your statement that 'no-one asks' why there isn't much respectable journalism out there. Pierre Bourdieu's book on TV and journalism asked - and made a fair fist at answering - exactly this question. I blogged it here if you'll excuse the self-linking - http://nevertrustahippy.blogspot.com/2006/08/moredieu.html

That said, if you haven't actually read it, you seem to reach similar conclusions to him in some ways.

One issue that Bourdieu comments on is interesting in itself though - you bring it up eliptically. He comments on the absurd nature of 'competition' between journalists.

The competition to get a story first (when all of your competitors can have it by the second edition) and the way that - in attempting to differentiate themselves from their rivals, newspaper editors strive to print almost entirely the same stories as their rivals - usually in a very similar way to their rivals.

angry_economist

I've said it before - journalists are lazy. They are after headlines, and generate stories daily. Its far easier to write some piece of speculation than to write a decent analysis of a situation. And with the fast rate of depreciation in the stock of stories, its easy to forget mediocre stories or stories that weren't very accurate - as you can generate a fresh story the next day.

Some journos do good jobs, particularly those who have enough time in a specialism to know it well. This especially applies to things like political analysis. But as for things like science and economics, they are usually lacking.

Sometimes there's patches of good analysis and good honest journalism and dogged search for truths.

However - blogging seems little different to the mainstream press to me a lot of the time. Chris - your blog is rare in that it uses a lot of analysis and makes it into decent bite sized and digestable feature stories. Whereas many blogs are akin to commentaries in the dead trees in my view. Something which I wouldn't choose to do myself if I had time to write a proper blog.

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