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January 30, 2007

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dearieme

The proposition that "stability" matters, irrespective of the state of affairs that is being stable, seems pretty fatuous.

Cleanthes

Dearieme,

If that was what was being said, I would agree, but it isn't, so I don't.

It is "political stability AND GOOD PROPERTY RIGHTS".

That seems an important qualification.

Mark Wadsworth

Fascinating stuff. But all business is about taking risks, for which you expect a risk adjusted return. 12% seems low, but what sort of return do they get on similar projects elsewhere? If Shell will do the same deal for 6% elsewhere, then Iran has conned itself out of some money and so on.

Chris

Shell's net ROA is around 10-11%, so 12% is not much out of line.

1. seems the most likely explanation.

As for the paper you quote, saying instability=high investment is the same as saying instability=high saving, which makes more sense!!

dsquared

4) the 12% return is being earned on an inflated regulatory asset base and on the basis of costs in Iran inflated by transfer pricing, so the actual return is substantially more than 12%.

Glenn Athey

Are you saying that neoliberal orthodoxy just doesn't make sense in the real world?! can't say I am too shocked, but then the same is true of a lot of economic theories and models - they contain partial truths, but not many can explain all decisions or outcomes.

If its the fundamental business of, the enterprise to extract, refine and sell oil, and said oil is in unstable countries, then that's fairly rational.

Natural resources are a prime attractor of foreign direct investment - plenty of evidence to support that. Most of China's outward FDI is aimed at securing natural resources. Its a given, really.

Glenn Athey

Are you saying that neoliberal orthodoxy just doesn't make sense in the real world?! can't say I am too shocked, but then the same is true of a lot of economic theories and models - they contain partial truths, but not many can explain all decisions or outcomes.

If its the fundamental business of, the enterprise to extract, refine and sell oil, and said oil is in unstable countries, then that's fairly rational.

Natural resources are a prime attractor of foreign direct investment - plenty of evidence to support that. Most of China's outward FDI is aimed at securing natural resources. Its a given, really.

ChrisA

Orthodoxy doesn't say that there will be no international investment, it says it will be reduced compared to other areas where there are good property rights and stable economies. And that is exactly what is happening, I mean compare FDI in Iran versus, say, the UK.

Shell's deal is puzzling to me because of the US sanctions issue, they must have been given a wink and a nod by the US authorities surely. But I bet the deal is a lot more than 12% if you could get hold of a copy of the internal Shell model.

Mark Wadsworth

Maybe instability is good for FDI, as the a ) people on the ground have less money to invest (their government has squandered it all) and b) if they do have any money, their best strategy is to get money out of the country to prepare for their eventual flight.

Leaving a vacuum to be filled by FDI.

Thanks for additional figures on Shell's IRR. I suppose one way of explaining this is that "markets know best", whether you can understand how or why is neither here nor there.

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