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May 01, 2007

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Jim

"in government, misallocations of spending priorities can have fatal consequences; in companies, by contrast, only money is lost"

So no companies have ever killed anyone by neglecting to spend enough on safety or monitoring? Are you sure?

Mark Wadsworth

OK, this government wastes money on an industrial scale, probably most of that £1.5bn was wasted as well, but who's to say that as a result of that cack-handed effort to "secure our borders", they didn't prevent other unsavoury characters from coming in, who would have instigated other crimes?

It's unlikely I know, but possible.

mat

Exactly what Mark said.

sanbikinoraion

Exactly what Jim said.

chris

Sorry, chaps - the five convicted yesterday, like the 7/7 bombers, were either British-born or arrived here as young children. No immigration controls could have fingered them as terrorists.
Sorry, Jim - you are right. But I don't think my main point is affected.

Mark Wadsworth

I wasn't talking about the five convicted yesterday, I was saying it is theoretically possible (but unlikely) that the Home Office actually manages to prevent some criminals (of whatever ilk, not just terrorists) coming in to the UK.

And you're not up to date with PC-speak, are you? Those five are referred to in the MSM as "British" and not "British-born", because the latter expression suggests that they are somehow second-class citizens (which they clearly were and are - but I'm not allowed to say that any more).

jamal

I disagree. it is more realistic to say that if so many billions were not spent on the Iraq war then funds could have beenused by home security forces.

Young Man

Like prison border controls are more about deterrence than prevention. If you really want to get into GB you can, th EU makes it impossible to have a fullproof system.

But deterence is important.

Chris, without immigartion control GB would have a massive class low paid immigrant worker class (probably arab), similar to the situation in the US with mexicans (although presumably legal).

Is that what you really want?

Alex

And we haven't got a massive low-paid immigrant worker class? News to me, old fruit.

Planeshift

"because the latter expression suggests that they are somehow second-class citizens (which they clearly were and are - but I'm not allowed to say that any more)."

You just did say that.

been arrested yet?

Thought not.

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