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July 28, 2007

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dearieme

Well said. A suitable epithet for that diatribe is "stupid", but it's nice to see you analyse four ways in which it is stupid. Presumably the author of it is envious and resentful. I've never understood the point of being resentful that you can't bend it like Beckham. I've got a fifth objection: giving any state the power to do what Mr Diab recommends is a route to tyranny.

Ken Houghton

Depends whether Roberto Carlos is even more highly compensated, no?
(See http://www.beautifulhorizons.net/weblog/2007/03/bend_it_like_be.html)

Chris, are you suggesting that Superstar Economics is just another way to exploit the rest of us, from stars to spear-carriers?

Dipper

I think for folks on the left the reaction to the existence of wealthy individuals is difficult.

Too often attempts to reduce the gap seem to be attempts to make it impossible for people to cross the poor/rich divide, hence entrenching inherited wealth.

The wealth being generated today is of a scale that has effectively destroyed the staus of inherited wealth, as very few British people can inherit the kind of money needed to compete with Private Equity or Hedge Fund multi-millionaires. Surely this has to be a good thing?

so unusally I find myself agreeing with dearieme.

jameshigham

Have to go along with this, despite the wonky last paragraph.

James Hamilton

"the presumption that society is not be be studied carefully, but is merely the object onto which we should impose our own ill-thought-out ideas." Sadly, this is also a beautiful phrase with which to sum up a large proportion of contemporary psychological and even psychiatric study, from Layard on up.

Surreptitious Evil

But he also confuses "wage" with "total annual earnings". Many of the very rich are not there because of any form of wage but because of asset appreciation, non-pay income (JK Rowling's share of the cover price, sports-people's sponsorship & endorsement income etc, etc.)

I do appreciate the horror at enormous wages (therefore not risk or success linked) paid to certain people - but then I don't like soap operas either - that is not a valid reason to legislate agin them.

I suppose Bill G pays himself a reasonable amount (and I really can't be bothered to do the research to check) but his real wealth is in the value of his Microsoft shares. Is Diab really suggesting that, come 4 Apr every year, every asset I, you and everybody else owns is valued, the increase over the previous year summed and anything over some arbitrary value confiscated? If he is, he is a statist fool, if not, he is simply a mendacious idiot who can't be bothered seeing past the attention-grabbing headline of his (presumably drunken or otherwise drugged) idea.

S-E

Surreptitious Evil

But he also confuses "wage" with "total annual earnings". Many of the very rich are not there because of any form of wage but because of asset appreciation, non-pay income (JK Rowling's share of the cover price, sports-people's sponsorship & endorsement income etc, etc.)

I do appreciate the horror at enormous wages (therefore not risk or success linked) paid to certain people - but then I don't like soap operas either - that is not a valid reason to legislate agin them.

I suppose Bill G pays himself a reasonable amount (and I really can't be bothered to do the research to check) but his real wealth is in the value of his Microsoft shares. Is Diab really suggesting that, come 4 Apr every year, every asset I, you and everybody else owns is valued, the increase over the previous year summed and anything over some arbitrary value confiscated? If he is, he is a statist fool, if not, he is simply a mendacious idiot who can't be bothered seeing past the attention-grabbing headline of his (presumably drunken or otherwise drugged) idea.

S-E

Kevin Carson

Re #4, I'm reminded of similar arguments that anarchism has never existed, a totally free market has never existed, etc. My standard response: perhaps that has something to do with the fact that we've never had a society that wasn't based on class exploitation.

The first states arose when the peasantry produced a sufficient surplus that kings and priests could milk them like cattle. Since then, state has intervened in the market on behalf of whatever privileged class has controlled the state.

ths

Let's follow this argument through. So most income inequality is due to the super-rich's income from capital, now lets imagine we implement his idea of a maximium wage in a problem free way. Haven't we just increased the returns to capital by lowering wage costs?

Matt Munro

"the presumption that society is not be be studied carefully, but is merely the object onto which we should impose our own ill-thought-out ideas." Sadly, this is also a beautiful phrase with which to sum up a large proportion of contemporary psychological and even psychiatric study, from Layard on up."

Psychology is (or should be) the scientific study of the individual psyche, not a deconstruction of "society". Agree that under the influence of the liberals, feminists and marxist who infest academia it is becoming dogmatically anti-scientific and increasingly resembles sociology.

Meh

You mean like the projection of managerialism or hierarchies onto every potential analysis of society?

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