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June 07, 2008



I think perhaps it may also be the fact that with exposure to a well reasoned argument people who are on the fence about issues my be swayed to one side or the other. That was the case with Fox news IMHO.

Bob B

"I've often thought writing for a newspaper is like wetting your pants - it feels hot to you, but not to anyone else."

I believe the complete quotation and attribution is:

"Did you ever think that making a [political] speech on economics is a lot like pissing down your leg? It seems hot to you, but it never does to anyone else."
US President Lyndon Johnson

Bryan Appleyard

Thanks, Chris.I think the Fox example is interesting but not quite a counter-example. America with its city rather than national newspapers is a different environment and TV, as you indicate, is a different kind of force. I think the creating identity point is an extension of mine about nasty stories and I am sure you are right. The press is a fairground mirror and they are constantly trying to fix what they see as distortions.


Do you mean to tell me you don't think it woz the Sun wot won it??


What on earth has happened to your font?


We both seem to have posted on this at about the same time. I've drawn different conclusions though...


Ken Houghton

Bryan Appleyard appears to be of the delusion that there are mulitple choices of newspaper, and that there is a spectrum of perspective in those newspapers.

Those of us who grew up in the Midwest know better, and I would presume the areas outside of London/Birmingham/Manchester would be similar.

Now, if he (or/and Mr. Kettle) wishes to argue that the sole purpose of being appealing to newspapers is that they are used as proxies in a nationwide discussion--and that the nation ignores the large majority of its newspapers--that would not be unreasonable.

But it would also note that the issue is not the newspaper, but the general discussion, and make an attempt to mollycoddle a paper than hasn't been relevant since at least Hilda the Hippo (ca. 1990), and probably since "Paperback Writer," look even more preposterous than it is.


Bob B - of course, I was quoting LBJ. This blog is both good and original, but the original bits aren't good, and the good bits aren't original.

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