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June 16, 2009

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Kit

Fraser Nelson's problem is caused by the Lobby system of mutual back scratching. Scrap it and have all government briefings open to all.
The second issue is the bizarre belief that the BBC or any organisation can be impartial and objective. Scrap the rules and let broadcasters be as biased as they want. I doubt we see much difference.

john b

I'd be more convinced by Fraser Nelson's oooh, Labour lies, bad Labour narrative, if his own commentary wasn't stupid bordering on misleading to an equal degree...

On your point 4, that rather relies on the belief that the pits would have been closed had the NUM been moderate. The fact that the steel industry union was moderate, and we make as much steel now as we did in 1978, may be relevant here (and may not, but I can't see how your counterfactual is any more relevant than mine...)

john b

I still hate your HTML-stripping ways.

http://www.johnband.org/blog/2009/05/29/longer-fraser-nelson/
http://www.johnband.org/blog/2009/03/13/fraser-nelson-ignorance-and-paranoia-in-one-simple-package/

chris

@ John B - I agree that Fraser's reporting has sometimes been very wrong.
But this shows why I'm ambivalent on this issue; a journalism that pursues the "truth" can degenerate into a morass of misunderstanding.

john b

Exactly that; I should probably have been clearer that was what I meant...

Matthew

And his famous claim that New Orleans was a richer city than London. He was comparing household income with individual income, which I told him but I never saw a correction.

ad

A journalist cannot tell anyone the truth - he can only tell them whatever he thinks is the truth.

Off topic, "the miners’ strike in 1984-85" is an interesting choice of example. I wonder how many people there are who have complained about the government not spending enough money subsidising the coal industry, and who have also complained about the government not doing enough to avert global warming.

Joe Otten

The problem in all 4 (or at least first 3) examples seems not to be that both sides are heard, which is fine, but that the journos in question didn't bother to look at any of the evidence for themselves.

Nicole S

Joe Otten has it exactly right. The BBC does it all the time. This morning, for example, they interviewed someone from Iran's state-sponsored Press TV, who, funnily enough, said Ahmedinejad had genuinely won the election. It is much easier to find someone with an axe to grind than someone with expertise, but it is not proper journalism.

rolex daytona

And a lot of it reflects a switch from bank deposits to securities; foreigners “other investments” in the UK, http://www.watchgy.com/ mostly bank deposits, fell by £143.2bn in Q1. And of course there’s no guarantee such buying will continue.
http://www.watchgy.com/tag-heuer-c-24.html
http://www.watchgy.com/rolex-submariner-c-8.html

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