Laurie’s post on white male resentment - the tendency for some white men to complain that they are under-privileged and marginalized when in fact they are not - raises an important question: what is the relationship between stated grievances and actual, genuine hardship?
This paper by Daniel Neff sheds some fascinating light upon it by studying the relationship between subjective well-being and actual living standards in two Indian villages in Andra Pradesh.
He shows that although the correlation between the two is generally positive, it is well short of unity. Almost a fifth of the poorest one-fifth of people - and these, remember, are the poorest in the world - say they are satisfied with their lives, whilst a third of the best-off fifth say they are dissatisfied.
This suggests that subjective indicators - how people feel, what they say - are an imperfect measure of actual inequality.
A big confounding factor here is people’s tendency to compare their present situation to the past and future. If people are less badly off now than before, or have high expectations for their children, they will report that they are satisfied with their lives even if, by objective standards, these are awful. Mr Neff gives the example of a woman working as a building labourer who says she’s satisfied with her life because she’s escaped an abusive husband and hopes her children will do well, and of a man who’s happy because he’s recovered from serious illness and is optimistic about paying off his debt.
I suspect that this mechanism helps explain white male resentment. Some are unhappy about “feminazis”, the “gay rights lobby” or the “race relations industry” because they feel less privileged now than in the past - even though, objectively, they are still privileged.
And this brings me to a big problem which Amartya Sen has often stressed - that paying heed to people‘s subjective, expressed, well-being can be very unjust:
This paper by Daniel Neff sheds some fascinating light upon it by studying the relationship between subjective well-being and actual living standards in two Indian villages in Andra Pradesh.
He shows that although the correlation between the two is generally positive, it is well short of unity. Almost a fifth of the poorest one-fifth of people - and these, remember, are the poorest in the world - say they are satisfied with their lives, whilst a third of the best-off fifth say they are dissatisfied.
This suggests that subjective indicators - how people feel, what they say - are an imperfect measure of actual inequality.
A big confounding factor here is people’s tendency to compare their present situation to the past and future. If people are less badly off now than before, or have high expectations for their children, they will report that they are satisfied with their lives even if, by objective standards, these are awful. Mr Neff gives the example of a woman working as a building labourer who says she’s satisfied with her life because she’s escaped an abusive husband and hopes her children will do well, and of a man who’s happy because he’s recovered from serious illness and is optimistic about paying off his debt.
I suspect that this mechanism helps explain white male resentment. Some are unhappy about “feminazis”, the “gay rights lobby” or the “race relations industry” because they feel less privileged now than in the past - even though, objectively, they are still privileged.
And this brings me to a big problem which Amartya Sen has often stressed - that paying heed to people‘s subjective, expressed, well-being can be very unjust:
The utility calculus can be deeply unfair to those who are persistently deprived: for example, the usual underdogs in stratified societies, perennially oppressed minorities in intolerant communities…routinely overworked sweatshop employees…The deprived people tend to come to terms with their deprivation because of the sheer necessity of survival, and they may, as a result, lack the courage to demand any radical change, and may even adjust their desires and expectations to what they unambitiously see as feasible (Development as Freedom, p62-63)Unfortunately, our pseudo-democracy does just this. It gives too little weight to the quietly oppressed, and too much to the noisy but discontented privileged.
Oh look, "a lilywhite daughter of the Sussex middle classes" attempting to downplay class issues through the particularly entitled medium of bald assertion.
Are others amused by the transparency of post-socialist bourgeois revanchism?
Posted by: Scratch | October 28, 2009 at 02:19 PM
Thanks for sharing this article, greetings
Posted by: juegos de estrategia | October 28, 2009 at 02:36 PM
he tendency for some white men to complain that they are under-privileged and marginalized when in fact they are not
When in fact they are quite discriminated on the ground in jobseeking.
Posted by: jameshigham | October 28, 2009 at 02:55 PM
Where have I attempted to downplay class issues?
Sure, this particular post doesn't focus on them exclusively, but I do mention them, and I do mention poverty, as factors in identity politics, which is what the main thrust of the post is about.
Yes, I think class is important, although not, in these post-Thatcherite days, as important as objective poverty, because people have far less of a sense of class identity these days. In the article, I acknowledge my own privilege - hence the self-depracating phrase 'lilywhite daughter of the Sussex middle classes' - that I have the privileges of a stunningly good education, a well-off family, and white skin. Those things do not make me blind to the fact that others don't have them. But nor do they prevent me from talking about identity politics - including gender politics and other things you appear to think aren't important - with any legitimacy.
Posted by: Laurie Penny | October 28, 2009 at 03:03 PM
I think they're much less important. Trevor McDonald's kids aren't my neighbour's kids, black or white.
Dividing and grading the working class majority is well, divisive, obviously. Equally obviously counterproductive if one is to presume one's self a socialist and, coming from a daughter of privilege, really rather rude.
I'd also argue that the glaring (and deliberate) absence of class from bourgeois discourse doesn't necessarily mean that "people have far less of a sense of class identity these days," especially given the ongoing entrenchment of class divisions, widening inequality and mainstreaming of barefaced snobbery.
Posted by: Scratch | October 28, 2009 at 03:25 PM
I'm always stunned at how bad various campaigners (and I'm afraid Laurie Penny is one of these) are at making the widest possible common cause in favour of their case. Making the point that "it's not about people like [me]" is hardly conducive to getting me to support her case, even though I share many of the basic liberal-left views that she does. It's almost as if the point is more about annoying people like me than it is about improving society. Unless, that is, society is somehow improved by causing me to waste another 10 minutes arguing on the internet.
The thing is, many of the most justice-improving policy options before us would be beneficial to nearly everyone. Human rights are great precisely because everyone benefits and it's not about trying to help or hinder one group relative to another. I could happily support (effective) policies to reduce poverty without a care in the world about whether the beneficiaries are of any minority group. Most people in society are a member of some minority group in some way, most people in society are working class and are net losers from the class system, most people in society will not achieve their potential. And yet plenty of seemingly well-meaning people insist on creating divisions between them, finding some way to privilege one cause over another, insisting that we can't possibly share in an ambition to improve society that benefits all of us. I don't understand it.
Posted by: Rob | October 28, 2009 at 04:19 PM
Scratch
"Are others amused by the transparency of post-socialist bourgeois revanchism?"
I might be, if I had a clue what you were on about.
Posted by: Luis Enrique | October 28, 2009 at 05:55 PM
Some are unhappy about “feminazis”, the “gay rights lobby” or the “race relations industry” because they feel less privileged now than in the past - even though, objectively, they are still privileged.
Alternatively some people have no problem with the promotion of equality of opportunity throughout everyday life, but just don't see why it needs self-interested, self-perpetuating, rent-seeking cottage industries filled with “experts”, “professionals” and “entrepreneurs” with euphemistic job titles who sustain historic grievance, entitlement and divisiveness (whilst lining their own pockets) under the pretext of equality.
Posted by: MJW | October 29, 2009 at 09:10 AM
"If people are less badly off now than before, or have high expectations for their children, they will report that they are satisfied with their lives even if, by objective standards, these are awful."
And therein lies the answer to those who argue that economic growth doesn't make us happier.
It may well be true that any given level of economic wealth doesn't make us happier: but as long as that level is growing then it does.
Posted by: Tim Worstall | October 29, 2009 at 10:15 AM
"This suggests that subjective indicators - how people feel, what they say - are an imperfect measure of actual inequality."
Well, yes. But arguably they are the best indicators of subjective well-being.
Well-being is not the same as equality, or wealth, or health. All important issues, but requiring different indicators to inform us of different situations requiring different responses.
Posted by: SteveA | October 29, 2009 at 01:43 PM
A famous economist tells the following story to suggest that subjective well-being is not the right thing to measure (I can't vouch for truth of it): the subjective well-being scores of people who have had a colostomy are much worse shortly after the operation, but statistically indistinguishable from equivalent individual still in possession of their bowels, after about 1 year.
One would not want to conclude from this that having ones own bowels is of no importance; one should not use well-being to measure importance.
Posted by: Luis Enrique | October 29, 2009 at 02:01 PM
"Dividing and grading the working class majority"
FAIL: the working class are a minority in the UK.
Posted by: john b | October 31, 2009 at 01:40 PM
The working class are in a minority????
Well quite. I have to wear a shirt and a pair of shoes at work. That must make me a capitalist. Plus I own a washing machine, so I've been throughly embourgeoisfied.
Posted by: Igor Belanov | November 02, 2009 at 10:59 AM
This question, "what is the relationship between stated grievances and actual, genuine hardship?" is really hard to answer.
-Luigi
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