Iain Duncan Smith says:
Yes, we saved more in the 1970s. But those were uncertain times and our wealth was being eaten up by double-digit inflation. I doubt if IDS wants a return to that.
What’s more, even at the peak of our fecklessness, in 2008, we saved a higher proportion of our income than we did in any year between 1946 and 1955.
Looking at the savings ratio, it wasn’t the 1940s that was the era of austerity, but the noughties.
If you’re surprised by this, you shouldn’t be. Our perception of the past is coloured by a class-inflected salience bias. We think of people in the 40s and 50s as being well-off Laura Jessons repressing their emotions and living well within their means. What we forget, though, is that millions of workers were on or near the breadline and simply could not afford to save. Now, though, more of us can afford to do so, and so the savings ratio is higher.
IDS’s idea that even this high ratio is insufficient rests upon a supposition that he knows better how individuals should behave than do the individuals themselves. Not only is this deeply questionable, it represents an arrogant anti-Hayekian statism. It’s as if New Labour never lost the election.
We do not save enough in this country, it is shockingly bad when it comes to how much we save.But when did the UK ever have a savings culture? My chart shows ONS’s estimate of the savings ratio since 1946; savings are measured as disposable income minus consumer spending. Last year, households saved 7% of their disposable income. This was actually above the post-1946 average (of 5.6%).
It has become unattractive to save. It is appalling, and changing the culture is critical.
Yes, we saved more in the 1970s. But those were uncertain times and our wealth was being eaten up by double-digit inflation. I doubt if IDS wants a return to that.
What’s more, even at the peak of our fecklessness, in 2008, we saved a higher proportion of our income than we did in any year between 1946 and 1955.
Looking at the savings ratio, it wasn’t the 1940s that was the era of austerity, but the noughties.
If you’re surprised by this, you shouldn’t be. Our perception of the past is coloured by a class-inflected salience bias. We think of people in the 40s and 50s as being well-off Laura Jessons repressing their emotions and living well within their means. What we forget, though, is that millions of workers were on or near the breadline and simply could not afford to save. Now, though, more of us can afford to do so, and so the savings ratio is higher.
IDS’s idea that even this high ratio is insufficient rests upon a supposition that he knows better how individuals should behave than do the individuals themselves. Not only is this deeply questionable, it represents an arrogant anti-Hayekian statism. It’s as if New Labour never lost the election.
"We never had a savings culture" is hardly the best argument against trying to develop one, Chris.
But you're right, the state has no business trying to decide what is the "right" amount of saving, and IDS would have come in for some Austrian scolding if Hayek were still around.
On the other hand, the state has no business distorting the market to *discourage* saving either; one could argue that current interest rate policy (artificially low rates to encourage borrowing) has that effect, so perhaps IDS should turn his attention thence before worrying about changing the culture.
Posted by: Neil | June 25, 2010 at 02:32 PM
Exactly Neil. Its not just current interest rate policy, the 'culture' IDS talks about has been carefully nurtured by the Thatcherite policies of the last 30 years.
Posted by: pablopatito | June 25, 2010 at 03:04 PM
Maybe people have been saving in different ways - i.e. more in their pensions, or more in their housing (knowing they will live long enough to be able to downsize their house and release the equity). Do the savings stats account for this? I doubt it.
I'm saving a lot now. But then I am one of the quangocrats facing redundancy apparently doing nothing at all every day except creating waste.
Posted by: Glenn | June 25, 2010 at 04:22 PM
Just interested: why is 1946 the cut-off point for the statistics?
Posted by: The Man Without Fear | June 25, 2010 at 05:21 PM
Glenn - the stats do not include house price appreciation, but they do include pension contributions.
The ONS database just happens to start in 1946. Charles Feinstein calculated the savings ratio for the years 1920-38. His figures show that it was negative in the early 20s, rising to a little over 5% in the late 30s.
Posted by: chris | June 25, 2010 at 05:53 PM
Pablo: I'm not sure I'd characterise low interest rates as being unique to Thatcherism; indeed interest rates under Thatcher were generally much higher than at any time in the last two decades (I Googled it: the lowest they ever got under her was 7.38%, and they were back up to 13.88% by the time she left office.)
Rather, I think they're a symptom of our obsession with GDP as a metric for the health of the economy (confusing the proxy for the thing itself), and with politicians' determination to produce the highest possible figures during their term in office, regardless of later consequences.
Low interest rates now mean short-term GDP growth, but also the risk of mis-investments causing bubbles that will burst later. To a politician, looking at no more than a decade in office, the appearance of growth now is more important than protecting against a hypothetical bust years down the line.
Posted by: Neil | June 25, 2010 at 06:25 PM
An important, and in my opinion unanswered question is why do we need a high savings ratio, or a high rate of savings?
What possible benefits does it confer? Saving more than is strictly necessary reduces economic growth (lower consumption/AD) and reduces the quality of life for people (they have to be more scrooge-like).
Of course, we need some savings to maintain a sustainable level of investment (to increase capacity and long-run productivity). But we're not China or Korea. We're not growing at 10% a year, so we don't need a savings rate of 20%, 30%, 40%.
For a good example of the problems excess savings causes, look at Japan. Japan has a massive structural imbalance caused by exporting too much and spending too little. Japan would be in a much better position if it used the proceeds from exports to spend on domestic demand, rather than hoard unnecessarily.
Furthermore, Japan does not benefit from the excess savings because the modern financial system simply means that these get funnelled abroad to more profitable investments. So all higher excess savings means is depriving present growth for no future return.
Posted by: Charles Barry | June 26, 2010 at 04:09 PM