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July 05, 2013

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Chris Purnell

Danczuk may feel that Owen is 'privileged' but he has a failed business behind him and so shares economic DNA with quite a few wide- boy Tories.

pablopatito

"populism (or perhaps even democracy) is incompatible with good policy-making"

I don't accept this. You just need someone who is able to persuade voters that your good policies are, indeed, good.

I'm not sure Thatcher and Obama came to power through following popular opinion, but rather through charisma and force of personality? Blair had this to a degree as well. The only real problem Labour have is Miliband and Balls have no personality.

People will queue overnight to buy inferior mobile phones if you have a charismatic enough person telling them to buy them, and politics is the same. You've posted before about the role of Labour in attempting to move the Overton window to the left, haven't you?


Metatone

Oblig - isn't there an interesting comparison to be made between Wenger and Gross? The shortsighted British football press could have easily taken against Wenger too...

As for the rest, Danczuk being treated seriously by the Times rather looks like an attempt to give Labour enough rope to hang themselves - naturally enough Danczuk obliged. I guess he didn't notice that his ad hominem on Jones also disqualifies Danczuk himself from representing his constituents. He may have been of humble origins, but he's a full-fledged UKIP wideboy now (as Chris Purnell suggests above.)

FromArseToElbow

@Metatone, the shortsighted British football press did take against Wenger initially and gleefully reported homegrown managers' derision (notably Alex Ferguson's) at his erudition and poncey methods.

The reason they stopped publicly deriding him (though the paedophile chants, which were part of that original "welcome", continued unabated) was that he won the Premiership and FA Cup double in his first full season.

rogerh

What seems curious is that political parties tend to attract a roughly equal proportion of the available votes. Now if the policies of one or another were demonstrably better or the track record of one or another demonstrably better I would
expect the competition to be much less evenly balanced. But in practice we stagger from one cycle of minor success and
dismal failure to another without the process seeming to improve along the way. One party seems just as rubbish as the
next.

This seems odd, the major industries seem to get better and better at what they do but public administration despite endless overhauls seems to fall into the same traps time after time. What is different? I suspect the cause is attempting to achieve contradictory goals - appeasing those with power and money at the same time as delivering bread, circuses, roads, rails, health, education etc whilst keeping the trade-offs secret. Not daring to tell uncomfortable truths seems the problem, to do so places a fatal weapon in the hands of the opposition - which is why whistleblowers get a hard time. Democracy's Achilles heel.

So we complete the circle, politicians depend on the cheerleaders, the cheerleaders depend on the powerful and no-one wants the trade-offs revealed - everyone except the (thoughtful) voter is happy.

Nick

'What seems curious is that political parties tend to attract a roughly equal proportion of the available votes. Now if the policies of one or another were demonstrably better or the track record of one or another demonstrably better I would expect the competition to be much less evenly balanced. But in practice we stagger from one cycle of minor success and
dismal failure to another without the process seeming to improve along the way. One party seems just as rubbish as the
next.'

Political parties that seriously contest elections tend to adopt similar strategies and policies for a number of reasons but mainly to attract the median voter in an election cycle. While private markets can seek out the marginal consumer, political parties are constrained to seek out the median. Imagine if every car or mobile phone had to be selected for everyone in the country by a housewife in hornchurch or an estate agent in basildon (where the median voter had been located in the past). Thats basically what politics is and why it usually sucks.

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