Just how badly off are today's young people? There's recently been a spate of pieces decrying their lot.
Such complaints have much truth: university tuition fees and how house prices are big burdens on young folk that my generation - the pushing 50s - didn't face. And, of course, it's no fun being young in recession; almost one-fifth of 18-24 year-olds are unemployed, and graduating in a downturn can have long-term adverse effects.
But is it fair to say today's generation is, on average, worse off than mine? I'm not sure, for two reasons.
First, in the long-term, even quite modest GDP growth has big effects. If the economy grows by 1.5% a year (less than its long-term average), then the average 50-year-old in 25 years' time - that is, today's 25 year-old - will be 45% better off than the average 50-year-old today. Barring an improbable disaster, today's young people will on average be better off than my generation on average.
Sure, the skewness around the average might change; if we become even more of a "winner take all" economy, the fruits of growth will go to only a minority. But if this happens - and I've no idea how to forecast long-term changes in the distribution of incomes - it is a problem of within-generation inequality, not of between-generation inequality.
Secondly, there's technical change. Think of what today's 25-year-olds have that I didn't when I was 25: the internet with its free access to music and (let's be honest) porn; e-readers that give you classic books for free; MP3 players that mean you don't have to cart cassettes around for your Walkman; mobile phones that weigh less than housebricks; TVs with more than four channels; better video games. And so on. In these regards, an average 25-year-old is better off than the richest 25-year-old was in 1988.
And, because he's younger, today's typical 25-year-old can look forward to more fruits of technical change than I can.
I don't say all this to patronize youngsters and claim they have no complaints. They do.
Instead, I do so to draw attention to a paradox - that whilst some people are complaining (rightly) about hard times, others are speaking of a "rapid growth of material superabundance." These are two sides of the same coin. The story of long-term economic growth is a story of changing relative prices. Prices of many services, drink and housing have risen over time - in part because of government policy - but prices of many goods have plummeted: an iPod was infinitely expensive in 1988. If we look at the former, today's young people are struggling. If we look at the latter, they're blessed.
I'm not at all sure how these balance out. Would I rather be a 25 year-old today than a 25-year-old in 1988? I just don't know.
Foreign travel is much cheaper today than back when I was starting univ in 1986. Plenty of my (minor public) school friends had never travelled further than car-ferry holidays to France or Italy.
Restaurants and booze are much cheaper and greater variety than 25 years ago. Cambridge in 1986 had chain pizza restaurants, Indians and dodgy Greek tavernas. That was it, until Old Orleans opened.
I went back recently and was told hardly any students eat in Hall these days as they eat out or buy M&S meals for a tenner.
As for booze it was beer in pubs or bottles of eastern European wine. The aisles and aisles of decent New World wine for a fiver that every supermarket now sells was unknown.
Posted by: Shinsei1967 | October 18, 2013 at 03:07 PM
I'd rather be a 25 year-old in 1988 knowing what I do today. Is that choice on offer?
Posted by: EpicureanDeal | October 18, 2013 at 03:34 PM
Each generation should have it better than the last. What's the point in human endeavour if we aren't doing that?
It should be unquestionably better for this generation than the previous one. If you're having doubts then something has gone horribly wrong.
Posted by: DuncanStott | October 18, 2013 at 03:52 PM
ED, well, yes, I'd like to have bought a few pounds worth of Apple shares in 1990...
Posted by: Luke | October 18, 2013 at 03:52 PM
While there was certainly plenty job insecurity in the 80s, the problem of positional goods appears to have worsened considerably.
Many 30/40-somethings are loaded with mortgage debt while today's 25 year-olds are being asked to pay the same high prices and hope interest rates don't rise for at least a decade.
Many of today's 18 year-olds will be 40p tax payers on average wages in effect thanks to tuition fees.
With so many retiring over the next decade, hopefully wage earners will finally be able to grab some of that GDP- I certainly don't see government trying to shift cash from the retired to youth any time soon.
Posted by: Fifer | October 18, 2013 at 08:27 PM
Maybe we should look around the world - young people in China, India, and the Phillipines seem much better off than a generation before. Spain, Italy, France seem a bit worse off. Closer to home information and entertainment are more plentiful and glossy (but trivial) gadgets abound. But the chances of a decent home, a stable job and a pension seem much worse. Still, an Ipad still works in a cardboard box (aka affordable housing). On balance - worse off.
Posted by: rogerh | October 19, 2013 at 08:35 AM
The main costs are:
-Food
-Rents
-House Prices
Think for all 3 above, today 25-yo are far worse than in 1988.
Posted by: SK | October 19, 2013 at 10:09 AM
In the 1970's, when I went to University, only 2% of the population in total had degrees. So although those of us who went to University got a grant, and no tuition fees, the vast majority of the population didn't get to go to University, so they were worse off than today.
When I left school there was high levels of unemployment like today, and that continued through the 1970's, getting much worse in the 80's, and inflation ran at 20% plus.
House prices were also high in the 80's compared to what they had been in the 50's and 60's, and early 70's. I got married when I was 20 and my wife was 18, so we were earning very little. But, we lived frugally for 3 years in a flat, and saved £5,000 - equivalent today of probably about £70,000 - to buy our first house for cash, before I went to University.
The main beneficiaries have been people who bought houses in the 60's to early 80's. Wage inflation eroded the capital value of their mortgages. If they had sense they took advantage to be able to save, building up a pension etc - though it depends if you were able to take that before annuity rates dropped.
The main problem for young people today is the high cost of housing, but that bubble cannot be kept up much longer. Help to Buy is a last gasp. House prices will collapse by up to 80% eventually, so the apparent good fortune of older people, which is an illusion will disappear.
I suspect that the beneficial effects of much lower housing costs on the value of labour-power and profits will facilitate employment growth too.
Posted by: Boffy | October 19, 2013 at 10:25 AM
Luke,
£1,000 of Microsoft shares in 1980 would have been even better.
Posted by: Boffy | October 19, 2013 at 10:26 AM
Boggy, sure you're right.
Not sure I had £1000 in 1980 when I was 15. Just following "what I know now" Vs "what I knew when I was 25" (though probably not what the Epicurean Dealmaker meant).
Posted by: Luke | October 19, 2013 at 07:39 PM
Let's not forget that it's the boomer generation who wanted so many young people to become graduates, so the economy could support people pottering in garden and drooling in care homes for 20 years. If I were 18 I'd probably take umbrage at having to take on £50K of debt for the privilege of letting my parents' generation maintain their death-grip on the country's housing stock.
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