On Twitter, LeftOutside asked why a basic income is popular on the internet, but lacks support in the real world.
The answer isn't that a BI is unworkable. Econometric evidence suggest it isn't, and it has been tried in a few places, with mixed-to-favourable results. At worst, this is sufficient to merit further investigation.
Nor is this a left-right issue. Rightists (including Hayekians) can support a low BI, leftists a higher one.
Here, then, are some reasons why I suspect a BI is less popular than it should be.
1. A selection effect.A BI is, perhaps paradoxically, a policy of pessimism. It's based in part upon the idea that governments lack the ability to distinguish between people of high and low needs or between strivers and scroungers - except at high cost - and so should adopt the low-information policy of giving everyone the same. However, politicians are self-selected for having faith in the power of government. They therefore believe - more than the rest of us - that governments can do better than a BI.
2. The power of reciprocity.People hate the idea that others are taking advantage of them - more than they hate the financial loss this causes: this is why "rip off" utility companies are so unpopular. A BI, however, violates the norm of reciprocity by offering skivers something for nothing. Personally, I think this is reasonable in a world of massive excess supply of labour. But others don't.
3.Status quo bias. All welfare systems (including zero welfare) have costs; this is because trade-offs are unavoidable. The question is: which costs would we rather incur? And there's a strong urge for folk to prefer the costs they have than unknown ones. So we tolerate a system with high marginal withdrawal rates, heavy administrative costs, and payment delays that inflict real misery rather than one with other costs.
4. A vicious circle. Because a BI is outside the Overton window, politicians and journalists who want to echo public opinion don't advocate it, and nor do men of "judgment." The upshot is that the idea stays outside the Overton window.
For me, all this means that BI is like land value tax or open borders. It's an idea whose merits far exceed its popularity.
"For me, all this means that BI is like land value tax or open borders. It's an idea whose merits far exceed its popularity."
We might add to that: reforming patent law (eg having far fewer patents) and decriminalising/legalising certain drugs. And probably some others I haven't thought of.
Posted by: UnlearningEcon | October 16, 2013 at 01:00 PM
The link between a BI and communally owned resources addresses the reciprocity issue. Alaska's BI is directly linked to its oil and gas endowment. I suspect that several of the oil rich middle east monarchies have BIs in all but name (restricted to citizens, not residents). I wonder if a BI and open borders are not workable together. I suspect they are not.
Posted by: Rahul | October 16, 2013 at 01:11 PM
I think the problems are more fundamental (a bit like the land value tax, although that's a different story) - it's where 'basic income' takes us as a society that should concern us. To me it seems like the answer to one of H L Mencken's 'seemingly intractable problems' - simple, obvious and wrong.
If I wrong, I'm yet to be persuaded that I am - if it helps I wrote this a while back:
http://theviewfromcullingworth.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/basic-income-human-nature-and-freedom.html
Posted by: Simon Cooke | October 16, 2013 at 01:32 PM
Regarding point 2, aren't people selective about reciprocity?
Where are the campaigns against posh kids getting large inheritances because of the sperm lottery?
Or against house price rises produced by government-backed planning restrictions and credit easing policies?
People hate the idea of unearned income when it's distribution is planned, but love it when it arises arbitrarily out of other processes.
Posted by: Steven Clarke | October 16, 2013 at 01:42 PM
Simon, I read your blog post. I may have misunderstood it (in which case sorry), but it looks like you have missed the point of the CBA.
You refer to the case of the "£7 job" where the net effect of working 35 hours, after allowing for loss of benefits, would be only £7. A problem, I agree, even if we update the figures. You then say:
"The idea of basic income makes this even more stark. That £7 a week job is now gone since the basic income is far in excess of the previous level of benefits."
No. With the CBA you *keep* the entire CBA, whether or not you have a job. That's the point. Everyone gets it, all the time. You, me, Wayne Rooney. So you are *always* better off if you work. And not by some derisory amount. You're better off by the amount of your wages (less any tax). Far from making the problem "more stark", it pretty much removes it.
You might be right about long term effects/incentives. I don't know. But whatever else it does, the CBA solves "the £7 job" problem.
Posted by: Luke | October 16, 2013 at 02:13 PM
One way of introducing the CBI idea is to shift the discussion from sharing national income to sharing work time.
If we have an excess of labour, and if we expect productivity and automation to continue to reduce the demand for labour while simultaneously growing GDP, then the current inequity will get worse.
Ceding on time is not in the interests of the privileged, as work is a token for rent-extraction for many, so conceding on a basic income might come to seem pragmatic. The debate will then be about how parsimonious we can be ("the nation can't afford more than a pittance").
PS: Just to add to Luke's good point, not only would you keep the basic income, but you might only pay 1% tax on that £7 of income. A CBI offers the opportunity of a more progressive tax system, without the distortions that the tax-free allowance currently gives rise to.
Posted by: FromArseToElbow | October 16, 2013 at 03:59 PM
but (and I repeat myself) what about housing?
if the idea is to replace means-tested benefits and remove associated distinctiveness to work, then you can't have people reluctant to get work (or higher paid work) for fear of losing housing benefits. Yet BI won't be acceptable if it leaves the unemployed destitute. But if it's set high enough to cover housing costs in South East England, the effect on labour supply will be titanic. I for one will be withdrawing my labour. The nation quakes.
Posted by: Luis Enrique | October 16, 2013 at 04:06 PM
we need citizen's basic housing
Posted by: Luis Enrique | October 16, 2013 at 04:09 PM
I’m indifferent to BI because it won’t make much difference. Reason is that everyone is on some sort of income: benefits, a wage, pension, etc. So let’s say BI is funded out of person taxation (as good a way as any). BI would then simply consist of knocking £X of everyone’s income and then adding £X back on and calling the latter BI.
Or perhaps I’ve missed something.
Posted by: Ralph Musgrave | October 16, 2013 at 04:56 PM
yes Ralph, more or less everything. Massive redistribution with completely different incentives for recipients, large reduction in bureaucratic overhead.
Posted by: Luis Enrique | October 16, 2013 at 04:59 PM
@ Rahul - there'sno contradiction between open borders and a BI - if the BI is conditional upon citizenship rather than residency.
@ Luis - yes, housing is a problem. But it is for any welfare system (the Beveridge report devoted a lot of time to the problem). One part of the solution is a massive programme of housebuilding. The question of whether people should be subisidized to live in areas of higher housing costs is, to say the least, moot.
Posted by: chris | October 16, 2013 at 05:49 PM
Surely the point is that a CBI would be less than many people currently get from the State in benefits (of one sort or another) and therefore is utterly unviable politically?
Posted by: Jim | October 16, 2013 at 09:19 PM
Interesting thoughts Chris, comes back to your point a few weeks ago is that you don't really need to be all that bright to see which policies are good. I swear I think more about politics than is strictly necessary.
Luis, I don't think a BI needs to be set at a level that allows someone to live in London. Reducing the London bias would be a good thing and I say that as someone who is benefitting from London bias a lot.
More housing would be a good idea, but London land is valuable, people don't get to live here cheaply.
Posted by: Left Outside | October 16, 2013 at 11:32 PM
Just what sort of status would non citizens have if they started each week £150 behind their more fortunate local counterparts?
It sounds more like the Gulf states' version of apartheid by citizenship, IMHO.
Posted by: attila | October 17, 2013 at 01:06 AM
Rightist who is intrigued by UBI here, some thoughts.
1. If we went the leftist higher UBI route, I suspect people would shun work in their droves, choosing leisure time and Jeremy Kyle over working the checkouts at Tescos. Rather than raise wages to compete for workers firms may be tempted to hire foreigners not entitled to UBI and willing to work for less. So you've got the citizens lounging about while the foreigners do all the donkey work, sounds a bit exploitative and not something lefties would usually be enthusiastic about.
2. The rightist route of the non-re distributive UBI I feel would be seen as a bribe by those living on a subsistence level while the wealthy accumulate sports cars and luxury homes while paying a tiny fraction of their wealth to keep the masses subdued. I think a revolution and full blown collectivism would not be far off but maybe you guys realise this and that's the whole idea, sneaky ; ).
3. Personally, I would feel uneasy knowing that my sole source of income was reliant on their being constant stream wealthy mugs who were willing and able to taxed in order to support me, but maybe that's my right notions of self-sufficiency and individualism rearing their heads.
Apart from that, I'm all for it.
Posted by: Chad Sexington | October 17, 2013 at 07:01 AM
Can you imagine if the government had to announce a 15% decrease in UBI payments due to a decline in tax receipts, there would be riots.
But then I guess that would be electoral suicide and the government would be more inclined to borrow/manufacture the money....whether that was sustainable or not.
Posted by: Chad Sexington | October 17, 2013 at 07:27 AM
Why did wealthy victorians eventually put money into mass sanitation and healthcare. It wasn't (mostly) through compassion but through self interest. This is where the battle for BI etc. will be won - persuading the elite. In the end the best way of saving posh children from cholera and TB was to ensure poor children didn't get it. And the rich needed healthier adults for wars etc. To save their posh children from today's diseases of inequality - drugs, depression and corporate excess, they will need to save us all.
Posted by: Neil Harding | October 17, 2013 at 08:40 AM
LO
I sympathise with your points, but believe it is not politically feasible to say to the jobless and low paid in SE England, oh dear looks like you've got to leave
Chad raises an interesting point about demand for immigrant labour in event domestic labour supply shifts
Posted by: Luis Enrique | October 17, 2013 at 09:14 AM
I think you miss a 5th point: the movement for the universal Basic Income is not organized.
The consequence of you 4 points is that for UBI to happen, you need a wide citizens/apolitical movement that gather a wide left-right coalition that urge the political sphere to discuss anything else but basic income while explaining the idea to the mainstream world. This does not exist yet in the UK neither in many other countries in Europe. Yet, this is the only way i see it can happen.
The problem is not the lack of supporters: I think we are much more than we think. Only problem is: where is the organization that makes these voices heard? Where is the organization that makes all the existing UBI-friendly forces join their efforts and thereby multiply their power?
It will be a long process to make it so, but if you are interested in working on this strategy, i invite you to visit http://basicincome.org.uk/ and see how you could help!
And please also sign the european citizens' initiative for UBI! It only asks the EU to examine the feasibiltiy, launch pilot projects and stimulate the debate in the EU: http://basicincome2013.eu/
Posted by: Stanislas J | October 17, 2013 at 11:11 AM
Woww... looking at the comments here, UBI misses the overton window by a mile.
Chris starts by saying that it is demonstrated that UBI is at least workable, et possibly positive. No one challenges the (admittedly fragile) evidence, but provides prejudiced arguments reckoning it is bad and not workable.
By the way, Switzerland is going to hold a referendum next year on UBI. This will give an idea of the overton window. (Switzerland is a sadly much ignored political lab)
Posted by: Zorblog | October 17, 2013 at 11:12 AM
The question of whether something is feasible is always a long fought battle. The weekend, 10 hour working days, the ending of slavery and the rights of women have all been called unfeasible in their time, always calling on some intractable aspect of human nature to make their claims plausible... This doesn't worry me. What worries me is the trade union skepticism (a point I think Stan makes above). For me, UBI could be a huge help in re-enlivening a site of contestation between capital-labour. But that is simply not on the labour agenda at the moment.
Posted by: David | October 17, 2013 at 11:24 AM
On Chad's point 1 about employers shifting to immigrant labour.
Would that necessarily apply? I agree my CBI allows me to laze around. On the other, I can undercut immigrant labour while still having a better standard of living than they would if they take the same wage.
Posted by: Luke | October 17, 2013 at 04:22 PM
Instead of "But others don't", I would go one deeper and say butters don't. You know as well as I do that whenever someone opens their mouth atleast one person in the room is going hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted by: SleekMinister | October 18, 2013 at 08:01 AM
Depressing thought: I suspect UBI isn't compatible with EU membership, at least as currently structured.
You can't restrict it to citizens: like all benefits, it's EEA nationals who've met a qualified residency period without it.
I don't see that one getting through the tabloids and politicians.
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エアジョーダン激安 http://www.rathbonedrains.co.uk/_common/36-Nike-Air-Jordan.html/
Posted by: エアジョーダン激安 | October 23, 2013 at 11:29 AM
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ジョーダン スニーカー http://www.kevinpottsdecorators.co.uk/js/32-Football-Uniforms.html/
Posted by: ジョーダン スニーカー | October 23, 2013 at 11:29 AM
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Posted by: エアジョーダン2013 | October 23, 2013 at 11:29 AM
鐒℃暟銇偄銉曘偪銉?銉?銉炪兗銈便儍銉堛伄浠樺睘鍝併伅銇傘仾銇熴伄鎶曡硣銇ㄣ偣銈裤偆銉儍銈枫儱銇瑕炽倰鍗冲骇銇繚璀枫仚銈嬨仧銈併伀渚垮埄銇с仚銆傘儣銉┿儉闈磋博澹层儣銉┿儉鎵嬭嵎鐗┿儣銉┿儉 銉儑銈c兗銈?銉忋兂銉夈儛銉冦偘妫氥€佺壒銇噸銇?- 缇╁嫏銉┿儍銈兂銈般仺鍚屾銆佺敚妤妤嫏銇枹銇椼仸鍟嗗搧銇撱伄鏈熼枔銇с仚銆?
エアジョーダン 通販 http://www.beightonbuilding.co.uk/js/32-Football-Uniforms.html/
Posted by: エアジョーダン 通販 | October 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM
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Posted by: ズームコービー8 | October 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM
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Posted by: ズームコービー8 | October 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM
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エアジョーダン激安 http://www.thediamondshop.co.uk/order/21-Nike-Mercurial.html/
Posted by: エアジョーダン激安 | October 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM
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ジョーダン1 http://www.directrentcar.com/js/32-Football-Uniforms.html/
Posted by: ジョーダン1 | October 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM
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ジョーダン1 http://www.lawcarpentry.co.uk/Pages/36-Nike-Air-Jordan.html/
Posted by: ジョーダン1 | October 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM
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ズームコービー8 http://www.masts-rigging-ireland.ie/pages/21-Nike-Mercurial.html/
Posted by: ズームコービー8 | October 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM