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May 20, 2021

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Dave Timoney

I'd add that the CPS is an institution that is particularly unsuited to developing the skills necessary for a politician - far more so than a typical commercial organisation - having a relatively small, secretive core that relies on highly prescriptive operating procedures to corral sub-contractors (lawyers).

Starmer's performance has reflected this, with poor planning and communications, and a knee-jerk authoritarianism, particularly in his dealings with constituency parties.

marku52

"English identifying voters" What is he trying to say here? White people?

" But there are no heroes, and even if there were we would lack the talent to find them."

I thought the PMCers that ran labour simply decided that Starmer was good enough to defeat Corbyn, and that was the only important selection rationale. Much the same was as Obama organizing a "Night of the long knives" to ensure that Sanders was not the nominee. Nothing else mattered.

R.Rees

Agree with much in this analysis. Starmer gives every indication he thinks MPs+Members are his employees in an bureaucracy.Yet Labour is a hybrid of bureaucracy (central office) with a need for democratic accountability+some of Weber's charismatic requirements.It's a demanding call+Starmer doesn't appear to have the flexibility to adjust. Not sure about 'luck' or lack of it. In Starmer's case I would translate that into understanding drawing on an appreciation of organisational history. His foot in mouth reference to the matchgirls' struggles shows that kind of 'luck' (historical interpretation) is also absent.

Guano

David Miliband would have been worse.

rsm

"short-term returns are largely due to luck."

So, prices are arbitrary?

I'm reminded of a trader joke: what are fundamentals? Whatever does not move price.

MJW

Starmer is also caught between a rock and a hard place. He can pander to the left wing of Labour with 'woke' style virtue signalling, Corbyn had great success with this noisy minority constituency, but sacrificed the wider support of the UK population because he gave the impression he cared more for people who they believe harm society than he did about them (e.g. Islamists, anti-Semites, terrorists, criminals claiming 'victim' status, professional grievance hawkers, economic migrants claiming refugee status etc...) Or he can try to be more centrist only to find that the Conservatives have the best tunes on most of the stuff that really matters the quiet majority constituency.

Perhaps Sturgeon, for all her faults, is someone he should have aimed to emulate? She has done a reasonable job convincing Scots she has their backs first and foremost, whilst setting the volume on the 'woke' stuff at a level that keeps the more moderate SJWs onside.

ltr

The point for a Labour elite and the media was that a Jeremy Corbyn who cared about and represented working class interests had to be destroyed and Keir Starmer was the chosen destroyer using horrid false anti-Semitism attacks. Starmer beyond falsely attacking Corbyn is no more than an inept Lite-Conservative.

Starmer cares nothing for traditional Labour interests and is a transparent sham.

Boris Johnson by contrast is truly openly Conservative.

ltr

MJW:

Corbyn had great success with this noisy minority constituency...

[ Rubbish; definitive prejudice. ]

MJW

@ ltr
By noisy minority constituency I'm not referring to 'protected' classes; I'm referring to the noisy minority of the population who obsessively virtue signal over a wide spectrum of issues that get labelled 'woke' or ‘SJW’ (the label given is less important than the public's common ability to recognise it). I'd argue the bulk of the 'actual' working class are primarily interested in mundane, prosaic concerns rather than modish virtue signalling overlays. They may be sympathetic to legitimate social issues, but the majority don't live inside the kind of cliched, formulaic, overwrought, commercially manufactured, grievance porn articles copy pasted in the Guardian every day.

ltr

MJW:

Ah, I did not understand what you were writing about and properly criticizing. I was wrong and quite agree with you:

"I'd argue the bulk of the 'actual' working class are primarily interested in mundane, prosaic concerns rather than modish virtue signalling overlays..."

This is important and I am grateful for having been corrected.

Well done.

Blissex

There is a rather more realistic argument: that Keir Starmer was not nominated for leadership because he was expected to lead the party to win, but because he was expected to be a reliable thatcherite if the party won.

There are some studies that shows that most party leaders have a small to negligible effect on electoral fortunes, also because most voters don't fire the governing party unless they screw up bigm, and because many voters don't even know who the party leader is.

So what matters is who can set the agenda *if* the party wins, more than who can possibly *make* the party win.

Blissex

«Boris Johnson by contrast is truly openly Conservative.»

Being "Conservative" means not very much, as the Conservative party does not have a distinctive ideology, beyond the interests of incumbent.

In particular the Conservatives have both a "tory" and a "whig" faction (with some different flavours of each), and I think that while B. Johnson is mostly instinctively a "tory", he has represented mostly "whig" interests, yet he currently is currently the front of the "tory" faction. That seems to me to be an opportunistic spiv, and perhaps in that sense he is "truly openly Conservative".

ltr

Blissex:

Being "Conservative" means not very much, as the Conservative party does not have a distinctive ideology, beyond the interests of incumbent...

[ Interesting comment. Why then do I think they have a distinctive ideology which I can identify in, say, about 10 points? I will try for a list in a while, and perhaps find I am wrong. ]

ltr

Blissex:

Being "Conservative" means not very much, as the Conservative party does not have a distinctive ideology, beyond the interests of incumbent...

[ Having tried to make a list, I realize just how malleable Conservative policy has been. So, I agree with there being no distinctive ideology. The political strength for now then rests on the leadership being pragmatic. ]

Blissex

«just how malleable Conservative policy has been. So, I agree with there being no distinctive ideology.»

To add this, there are several variants of conservative (small "c") ideology, but the Conservative party, while occasionally using one or the other as pretext, is really "malleable".

This is because it is not just driven solely by the interests of incumbents, but because the incumbents that matter most change with time. That is the category "incumbents" is not even a fixed class, as in "Labour", or a fixed constituency of any type.

ltr

Blissex:

To add this, there are several variants of conservative (small "c") ideology, but the Conservative party, while occasionally using one or the other as pretext, is really "malleable".

This is because it is not just driven solely by the interests of incumbents, but because the incumbents that matter most change with time....

[ Really, really nice insight. ]

rsm

["Incumbents" doesn't mean anything.]

ltr

Returning to Keir Starmer and Labour as now presented, I have no idea other than as a bargaining chip locally why I would ever vote Labour and this bothers me as leaving Conservatives increasingly unaccountable.

I can imagine no more ineffectual-inept leader than Starmer, but that may be the point.

Jim

Underlying our politics is a fundamental problem for advanced Western democracies - we are too expensive, Or at least our Jack & Jill Averages are. The Tories are the party of the George & Jemima Above Averages and would very much prefer Jack & Jill did not exist and their houses were sold off as BTL investments.

Starmer and Labour represent (in theory) Jack & Jill but has no way of reversing the economics of the class and education structure. Boris and friends run the party of selfishness, something that is much easier to do than cutting across the grain of human nature. The disparity in class costs is greater in the UK than elsewhere and relates to the housing market. That is taking Jack & Jill into a long slow death spiral.

This situation underlies Labours problems and is not helped by the very poor way the political career path for Labour politicians has developed. You would not run a big successful company like this.

ltr

What does such testimony mean?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-57254915

May 26, 2021

Key points: Dominic Cummings evidence

Boris Johnson's former chief adviser Dominic Cummings has made a series of explosive claims about mistakes made by the government in handling coronavirus.

ltr

Again, what does this mean?

May 25, 2021

Johnson leads a populist government which should not be normalised

-- Simon Wren-Lewis

[ The link to this blog will not post. ]

ltr

Dominic Cummings shows us the political tragedy that we were engulfed by.

rsm

Big successful companies implicitly rely on the Fed to insure them against panics. We should use the world central bank unlimited currency swap network to insure all of us explicitly with Universal Basic Income ...

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