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July 24, 2023

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David Brown

For some bizarre reason I decided to watch GB News for a little while. The adverts were all for "Great British" companies, souvenir coins and the like. They were uniformly shite.

Gary

You are aware that Coutts concluded that Farage met the Economic Criteria?

Gary

Part of the problem is that - as a nascent market - consumers are more easily duped. Coutts for example are a B Corp. That's a pretty strong political signal, but I'd be surprised if even 1% of the population understood that signal right now, so of course they ignore it (at least for now).

Gary

he "met the economic contribution (EC) criteria for commercial retention"

https://news.sky.com/story/key-points-from-coutts-dossier-on-nigel-farage-12924078

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23881614-private-redacted

ltr

As Robert Shrimsley has asked, if the right no longer supports free markets what exactly is their mental model of the economy? And were the right ever sincere in the support for free markets, or was this support only strong when those markets were operating to weaken the working class?

[ Seriously, socialized markets for the rich and competitive markets for the rest; the right was never sincere and supports markets that limit the opportunities of the working class. ]

Laban

"was this support only strong when those markets were operating to weaken the working class?"

With respect that's nonsense. Working class people were relatively much better off in 1950s/60s/70s than today and things were a LOT more conservative, including conservatives being free market fans.

We didn't NEED a minimum wage in the 1960s, when the classic Tory voter moan about council estates was that people living in them could afford Jaguars!

ltr

Working class people were relatively much better off in 1950s/60s/70s than today and things were a LOT more conservative, including conservatives being free market fans.

[ Possibly my sense is incorrect, but where would there be an example? ]

Jak Rent

In conclusion, the issue of "woke capitalism" has sparked discussions about the Right's faith in market forces. While market mechanisms have historically shown their potential to dismantle racist practices and stereotypes, the case of "woke" capitalism presents a more nuanced scenario. Nonetheless, the core principle of market competition and consumer choice still stands. If companies prioritize political correctness over profit-making, they should face the risk of losing market share to rivals that better align with consumer preferences. The market, in its dynamic nature, should play a role in shaping the future of "woke" capitalism, just as it has impacted other socio-economic phenomena in the past.

Ben

I am sorry but what do you mean by woke capilalism?

Blissex

Gary Becker's silly argument is based on the hidden assumption that there is such a shortage of labour that the success of businesses depends critically on them being able to get a larger share of the few able workers of whichever minority. A lot of arguments are based on similar assumptions...

ltr

Gary Becker's silly argument is based on the hidden assumption that there is such a shortage of labour that the success of businesses depends critically on them being able to get a larger share of the few able workers of whichever minority....

[ This is arguing that discrimination in markets is self-defeating and self-eliminating, but that is not correct. So, markets must be structured to be as non-discriminatory as possible or socially desirable. [

rsm

Do markets remain irrational longer than Farage can stay solvent?

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