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March 13, 2024

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rsm

Can we please start by cutting all drug enforcement spending? (Why should I want to do menial work for rich people because some ivory tower ergodic model says that is what all of society really wants?)

TickyW

Some goods and services will never be produced in sufficient quantity by the market, which is why a government must either procure those goods and services from the private sector or provide them directly to households.

Increasingly, these "merit goods" are procured from the private sector. There's nothing wrong with this except the contracts to supply the goods and services seem to fall into the hands of private equity investors, providing the latter with very lucrative income streams. Despite the exorbitant costs to the tax payer, the services provided, eg childrens' and aged peoples' homes, are frequently graded by the inspection agencies as substandard.

Futher to Chris's point, Rachel Reece could run a tighter fiscal policy by mandating these contracts be put out to tender before awarding them and, subject to quality standards, award the contracts to the lowest bidder and not to the government's chums in the City. The scale of this sector is such that significant savings could be made to public expenditure (but not to public services) by awarding contracts on the basis of at least three sealed bids.

Yes, the private equity institutions will howl, but think of the disadvantaged kids in state care whose life chances might well be improved as a consequence of receiving high quality care and not being traded as a commodity.

Danny A

Part of the battle with this line of argument is that "Tight fiscal policy" is currently understood to be caps on public sector wages and limited public investment.
But loads opportunity for tax reforms; I'd start by switching council tax to a % of rentable rate.

Blissex

«A case for fiscal austerity»

I am happy that at least there is "fiscal" as a qualifier, but it is still somewhat misleading, because given a fixed inflation target fiscal contraction "forces" the BoE to do high credit expansion to trigger the "wealth effect" for business and land property property owners. The two are part of the same policy, so mentioning one without the other can lead to misunderstanding.

Blissex

«Macroeconomic policy must not be a matter of ideology but of empirical fact: you should run a loose policy when there's spare capacity in the economy and a tight one when there isn't.»

Apparently for our blogger policy has no distributional aims or effects, "empirical fact" cannot be that it is loose for some classes but tight for some other classes, there there is spare capacity (several billions underemployed and unemployed in the global labor market) in the market for labor, or tight in the market for properties (workers doubling up all the time because housing growth is much inferior to job growth in those areas where there is job growth).

Our blogger seems to imply that there is a "national interest" of "the country". I guess "we are all thatcherites now", "we are all the in the same boat", "we are all middle class now".

Counterfactual

The essence of council tax is that it is local and based on local valuations. Change the mechanisms all you like but raising more money in Kensington does not give more money to Doncaster. If you want to transfer money from rich to poor areas you need another type of tax

Blissex

«Nevertheless, the fact is that the pool of available labour is small. [...] raising the inflation target [...] doesn't solve the physical constraint, of there being just not enough doctors, housebuilders or skilled workers in the green economy.»

Arguably, according to mainstream Economics, there is a labour shortage as long as wages are above subsistence level, or at least above the global market price for labour of around £1-2/hour, but I do not detect in the UK labour market a trenchant attitude from workers thanks to such a shortage.

I understand that in this post our blogger is trying to make the case for fiscal austerity that is not necessarily his own argument, but he is perhap trying too hard: in previous posts he has been arguing that wages have been stagnating (but he is sure that is not because of massive immigration) and growth has been missing, and now that is also a labor shortage.

Perhaps it is the usual difference betwene the real world in which our blogger lives and the parallel imaginary one where I live where average real wages have fallen around 8% since 2008 (while average real property prices in the south have rizen by 60-80%) which does not seem to indicate an *average* shortage of labour. If there is a shortage of labour in some categories it may be for CEOs and executives whose "compensation" has been rising faster.

Blissex

«reallocation is typically small - usually not much more than 1% of total employment, or less than 400,000 people per year.»

That is "other things being equal" and yet it is pretty large. As in the real world about which our blogger reports apparently there are shortages of labour and in particular in some sectors, wages and in particular in those sectors should rise and provide a strong incentive for more rallocation than usually.

Danny A

Council tax *bands* are based on open market (national) valuations from 1991.
Band D for Kensington this year is ~£1500, for Doncaster it is ~£2000.
Of course there used to be a substantial block grant from central government to allow geographic redistribution, the Tories slashed this.
Separating tax-take from spending allows for more effective service provision and investment.

Blissex

«Separating tax-take from spending allows for more effective service provision and investment.»

But that is... COMMUNISM!

An essential part of torysm is the this type of thinking "Why should my taxes pay for fixing potholes in another street in this town when my street does not have any?".

Even if some tories may be vaguely aware that reciprocal insurance is not redistribution, and even that perhaps they or their employees or their delivery drivers will have to drive through on other people's potholed streets...

Blissex

«there used to be a substantial block grant from central government to allow geographic redistribution, the Tories slashed this.»

Part of this is a a long term goal of separating people by income in different areas, and then devolving most taxation and spending to local areas.

Indeed most new build housing since the 1970s/1980 have been targeted at specific income bands. While apartheid by skin colour is unpopular, apartheid by income class is very popular with the middle and upper classes.

Also ideally low-income areas would be high-density and few (low-income ghettos), so that potential voters for social-democracy or socialism be able to elect only a few MPs even if with large majorities, something that is already happening in many cases.

reason

For once, I agree with blissex here! You need to discuss not just fiscal but also monetary policy. The mix between the two has been crazy for some time. You can't build a resilient balanced economy by increasing private debt. Much more of the needed increase in the money supply should come from monetized central government debt. And the particular problems we face (corroding infrastructure, climate change, an aging population, the housing crisis, imply we need to be consuming less and investing more). We need higher interest and higher savings rates and more government investment and more government subsidies for investment. It is all one package.

reason

And by the way as we saw in the 60s labour shortages are a good thing. They push up wages and encourage improvements in productivity.

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