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November 25, 2024

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rsm

《Financial regulation has increased because the 2008 financial crisis showed us that banks cannot regulate themselves.》

What if our blogger has missed the real lesson: why can't the Fed bail out incipient Lehman Brothers situations (as with Silicon Valley Bank) before they cause a spreading psychological panic that has nothing to do with real supply and demand conditions?

Sam Freedman

It's an honour to be critiqued by one of my favourite economics writers.

But I would take issue with the idea this is a blindspot (I've been reading you for years so I must know a bit about Marxist ideas...)

It's more that we don't agree on the causal relationships here. I do answer the question as to why we're in this bad equilibrium it's just I don't think the answer is "it suits the rich".

Take outsourcing - it's certainly true that lots of people have made a killing out of it (literally and metaphorically) but is that why it happened? I would argue it's got more to do with frustration with local government experienced by central govt politicians and officials. That led to a capacity gap which private companies were happy to fill.

But as I set out in the chapter it also hasn't gone all that well for many of the companies. Lots have collapsed, others are in trouble. Things are now so bad that govt have just introduced profit caps for children's homes. If you wanted a sustainable route for money making you wouldn't design something like this.

Same with the changes in media. A lot of the problems stem from the fracturing of a landscape that has really not helped proprietors (who have been trying to exercise control via media ownership since the dawn of modern politics).They were quite happy in a world where 3m people read their physical paper every day.

None of which is to say the rich aren't influential in maintaining bad elements of the system, just that I think the reason our form of capitalism is in such a mess is largely because of governance/institutional failures rather than vice versa. After all Denmark has rich people, corporations and populism, but it has a very different governance structure and political culture.

Ultimately my recommendations are all about power - decentralisation, scrutiny, more local media etc...but because I think the problems are primarily caused by governance I think they can be (somewhat) solved by it too.

Ben Oldfield

A successful company's aim is to make money to buy shares and so the CEO gets an increasing bonus. Making things or delivering clean water is incidental and is a burden.

Jan Wiklund

The curious thing is that those who blame bureaucratism for growing always propose "more control" as the remedy for those swindles that always occur because of market solutions in health-care and education.

In Sweden the administration personnel in healthcare has quadrupled since it was exposed to market mechanisms in the 90s. But the market fundamentalists can't se any relation between the two.

P S BAKER

“Contrary to what most economists would expect, the scope of govt has been larger, not smaller, in economies taking greater advantage of world markets. Indeed, govts have expanded fastest in the most open economies.”
https://drodrik.scholar.harvard.edu/files/dani-rodrik/files/why-do-more-open-economies-have-bigger-governments.pdf


Blissex

«Which poses the questions: why are we in this bad equilibrium? Why are there so little external pressures for change? [ ...] It's because our bad government serves the rich quite well.»

But it is not just "the rich", it is also the middle class, those @aspirational voters who shop at John Lewis and Waitrose". It is not "the 1%", it is "the 30%", affluent property owning PMC members, pensioners, small business owners.

This is not an irrelevant detail: neoliberalism is the political alliance of the "whig" financialist upper class and the of the "tory" land-rentier middle class to redistribute upwards from the working class and the underclass via finance, property, meaner welfare and public services, tax shifting from wealth and income to consumption.

Blissex

«Take outsourcing - it's certainly true that lots of people have made a killing out of it (literally and metaphorically) but is that why it happened? I would argue it's got more to do with frustration with local government experienced by central govt politicians and officials.»

Outsourcing of government services was most famously advocated by Nicholas Ridley:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/microsite/outsourcing_/story/0,,933818,00.html
“The former Conservative environment secretary Nicholas Ridley led the free market charge on outsourcing. His 1988 pamphlet “The Local Right”, published by the Centre for Policy Studies, argued that local authorities should concentrate on enabling  —  rather than providing  —  services. Compulsory competitive tendering (CCT) had driven down costs, he argued, and introduced a new culture of innovation and entrepreneurship. He would say that his ideal council was one that existed  —  perhaps apocryphally  —  in the American midwest. It employed practically nobody and met just once a year to award all the council service contracts to private firms.”

Why was/is that system relatively common in Midwest towns even if managing and auditing outsourced contracts is a difficult and time consuming task? Because in many of those place the local political machine is run by a powerful mob and they own both the local councilors and the local businesses to which outsourcing contracts are given, so managing and auditing outsourced contracts was/is an avoidable expense.

I am not surprised that a tory would regard that as an admirable system.

Outsourcing was also because of a claim by Margaret Thatcher that "the only thing worse than a private monopoly is a public monopoly".

«That led to a capacity gap which private companies were happy to fill.»

As I remember at the time that Thatcher and Blair were pushing outsourcing and PPI so hard the claimed goal was "labour market reform", that is cutting employment and wages. Public workers were described as particularly "lazy, uppity, overpaid" with "gold plated pensions" and outsourcing was meant to replace them with many fewer much cheaper worker driven hard by private employers. The main claimed advantage of outsourcing was a drastic cut in the labor costs of local councils, for the benefit of local ratepayers, in particular pensioners and shop owners.

«But as I set out in the chapter it also hasn't gone all that well for many of the companies. Lots have collapsed, others are in trouble.»

But that claim to me seems based on an astute avoidance of looking at the ownership structure of the outsourcing industry, where the "front" businesses that physically provide the outsourced services often send massive chunks of their revenues "upstream" to opaque networks of shell companies usually offshore using various excuses, from "management services to "trademark leasing", a pretty standard arrangement in asset-stripping based operations.

Blissex

«In Sweden the administration personnel in healthcare has quadrupled since it was exposed to market mechanisms in the 90s.»

Obama described well the situation:

">https://www.thenation.com/article/mr-obama-goes-washington/>
«“I don’t think in ideological terms. I never have,” Obama said, continuing on the healthcare theme. [...] “Everybody who supports single-payer healthcare says, ‘Look at all this money we would be saving from insurance and paperwork.’ That represents 1 million, 2 million, 3 million jobs of people who are working at Blue Cross Blue Shield or Kaiser or other places. What are we doing with them? Where are we employing them?”»

And what about all the executives and investors in those companies? Why should their bonuses and dividends be "confiscated" by the government? :-)

«But the market fundamentalists can't se any relation between the two.»

My general impression is that usually "market fundamentalists" do see the relation and are hypocrites or paid propagandists so pretend not to see it.

Kester Pembroke

Blissex your view this idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqwpQarrDwk

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